# A new strategy CME Futures SM **URL:** \ **Category:** Trading and Markets\ **Created:** [May 22, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613 "2018-05-22T10:52:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zhenjun\_yuan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/zhenjun_yuan/32/1487_2.png) [@zhenjun\_yuan](https://forums.collective2.com/u/zhenjun_yuan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/1 "2018-05-22T10:52:03Z")
How about CME Futures SM? Good performance so far > **[CME Futures SM](https://www.collective2.com/details/117904824)** > > CME Futures SM - trading strategy on Collective2 ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/2 "2018-05-22T14:46:03Z")
Adding to losing trades. 20, 30 contracts on this size account is nuts. Be curious to see if he has a stop loss when things turn bad after he has doubled down. Also, all of a sudden after his big winners he states the “new strategy” is only 5 contracts at a time, 10 max. So basically disregard his prior track record, which no one is I’m sure. Guy is still learning how to manage a strategy and over 25 subscribers already threw money at him from what I can tell. My guess is this guy has made his quick $7,000 and C2 has made some good money too. Time will tell if subscribers will make any money at all. My guess is no. But hey, he got paid, good for him. Knows how to work the system. Also fishy things - three profiles named “RussNorwood” subscribed (1, 2, and 3). Strange. ---
**Author:** ![GREGGL](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/greggl/32/1487_2.png) [@GREGGL](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GREGGL)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/3 "2018-05-22T14:52:58Z")
I ask him if adds to losing trades and this is the reply I got. "There may be one cost average, but max contracts won’t exceed 10. Please check system description. " so he calls it cost averaging but he adds to losing positions. ---
**Author:** ![GREGGL](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/greggl/32/1487_2.png) [@GREGGL](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GREGGL)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/4 "2018-05-22T14:55:06Z")
I tried to simulate just to watch and he will not let you. this was his reply "Hello GREG, I do not let anyone on Simulation at ([https://www.collective2.com/details/117904824](https://www.collective2.com/details/117904824)) because when one joins in simulation, many will follow, please do get me wrong. You can watch my performance by putting my strategy under “watch List”, when/if you want to go live, let me know, I’ll provide you a fresh coupon." ---
**Author:** ![GREGGL](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/greggl/32/1487_2.png) [@GREGGL](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GREGGL)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/5 "2018-05-22T14:56:28Z")
On 5-15-18 he had a 26% drawdown. Just FYI ---
**Author:** ![v1Trader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/v1trader/32/1487_2.png) [@v1Trader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/v1Trader)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/6 "2018-05-22T14:59:48Z")
And on 5-15 he averaged down twice (not once), going long 10, then long 10 more, then long 10 more on the way down, before selling all 30 contracts back near the original opening price, in a space of 28 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/7 "2018-05-22T15:01:38Z")
> [@v1Trader](#): > > And on 5-15 he averaged down twice (not once), going long 10, then long 10 more, then long 10 more on the way down, before selling all 30 contracts back near the original opening price, in a space of 28 minutes. All in the past. He changed his system. Always a good sign. 👍 what could go wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![Biks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/biks/32/22165_2.png) [@Biks](https://forums.collective2.com/u/Biks)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/8 "2018-05-22T17:06:15Z")
I went on the simulation today and now it’s gone private !!! ---
**Author:** ![GREGGL](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/greggl/32/1487_2.png) [@GREGGL](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GREGGL)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/9 "2018-05-22T17:20:28Z")
He did that to me. He goes private to knock off the simulation and then goes back public. Besides everything else you have to ask your self why he wants no one to simulate. ---
**Author:** ![Biks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/biks/32/22165_2.png) [@Biks](https://forums.collective2.com/u/Biks)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/10 "2018-05-22T17:54:01Z")
I would say once the strategy goes public it should not be able to go private. As far as this guy goes he must have something to hide. ---
**Author:** ![OSUTIA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/osutia/32/3401_2.png) [@OSUTIA](https://forums.collective2.com/u/OSUTIA)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/11 "2018-05-22T18:25:12Z")
There is a lot of new strategy starting every day or spam on forums. I don’t even look for anything less than 6 months old or a yr. Start out they all do well, or else they would have reset and started over by then. Usually 3 months-4 month old strategy with good performance is the biggest trap. They have good return and low draw down. And their trading history is too long for you to go back and review his earlier trades. The low draw down also make you feel confident that it’s good one to put real money in. ---
**Author:** ![QFund](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/qfund/32/1487_2.png) [@QFund](https://forums.collective2.com/u/QFund)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/12 "2018-05-22T19:14:47Z")
> **[Hit Parade](https://collective2.com/details/116405505)** > > Hit Parade - trading strategy on Collective2 care to analyse anyone? I dont see any anomaly from trade lists. BUT many users (and that too created not recently) subscribed ONLY to this system. That is strange! For subscribers’ sake I hope nothing fishy is going on behind the scenes ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/13 "2018-05-22T19:29:12Z")
The fact that he shows up and immediately starts a system that does well makes me think he was a previous developer. Also, as you noted, the bunch of random subscribers with 2-4 letter names is weird. He has, however, done very well in a brief period, only trading one contract and not allowing large losses. Now, his wins have mostly been on the long side, few short trades. Would be curious how he does in a bear market. This is definitely one to watch. The only remaining question I have is - why is this guy not TOS if it’s such a great system? ---
**Author:** ![Biks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/biks/32/22165_2.png) [@Biks](https://forums.collective2.com/u/Biks)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/14 "2018-05-22T20:02:18Z")
This might be nothing but, I notice developer ML7 ( 3 letters ) when ever I tried to change my ID to 3 letters C2 won’t allow it says it need to be 4 letters minimum. Any explanation ? ---
**Author:** ![TT40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/tt40/32/10610_2.png) [@TT40](https://forums.collective2.com/u/TT40)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/15 "2018-05-22T21:45:13Z")
It’s fun to watch people trade with monopoly money ---
**Author:** ![Pete](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/pete/32/12306_2.png) [@Pete](https://forums.collective2.com/u/Pete)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/a-new-strategy-cme-futures-sm/11613/16 "2018-05-25T18:13:38Z")
Strategy has been made “private”