# Access Invest Strategy / First month free!

**URL:** <https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927>\
**Category:** Trading and Markets\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927 "2018-09-04T13:02:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![masnas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/masnas/32/12306_2.png) [@masnas](https://forums.collective2.com/u/masnas)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/1 "2018-09-04T13:02:32Z")

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Hello, please find enclosed my strategy; I cannot get TOS because I’m using a broker called CMC Markets (UK). This strategy mirrors my account, however I trader larger amounts. It is ideal for a 100k minimum investment. I’m happy to apply a one month free for any subscriber. For any month that my strategy doesn’t cover for the monthly subscription, you will get the following month for free.

So far I had several good months, including the “correction” in February, that helped the performance of Access Invest.

> **[Access Invest](https://collective2.com/details/116364775)**
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> Access Invest - trading strategy on Collective2

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/2 "2018-10-11T14:58:49Z")

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Looks like you have a pretty bad day yesterday. A 20% drawdown in 1 day is not very safe. Don’t you use stop losses?

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**Author:** ![masnas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/masnas/32/12306_2.png) [@masnas](https://forums.collective2.com/u/masnas)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/3 "2018-10-11T16:07:09Z")

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Of course I do, in fact both trades closed out at stop loss level, I was trading 8 contracts hence the big drawdown; however I’m very confident the strategy will recover a losses and getting good profits. I understand that for some investors is not ideal but I’m making a lot of money with my brokerage account thus I don’t see it as a very negative factor. Now that we have good volatility in the markets I think it is a great opportunity to make money, with some “larger” DDs.

Thank you for reaching out to me, for any further question, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards,

Max

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**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/4 "2018-10-11T17:53:21Z")

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> [@masnas](#):
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> I’m making a lot of money with my brokerage account

Do you run a different strategy there?

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/5 "2018-10-12T02:59:59Z")

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> [@masnas](#):
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> I understand that for some investors is not ideal but I’m making a lot of money with my brokerage account thus I don’t see it as a very negative factor.

Well its a negative factor if I were losing 30k from 1 day of trading if I were to autotrade with your strategy. When you trade with other people’s money I don’t think you should take such risks.

Its all fun when its paper money that your trading with on C2 but subscribers wouldn’t think that way.

I hope you don’t trade 8 contracts and with such large stops again with that account size on C2. Thats some serious overleveraging.

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**Author:** ![masnas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/masnas/32/12306_2.png) [@masnas](https://forums.collective2.com/u/masnas)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/6 "2018-10-12T10:19:21Z")

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I can personally take a loosing trade and my brokerage account can take a 30k loss, unfortunately the minimum capital is set at 60k and in my opinion should be at least 100k; I typically don’t trade 8 contracts, however since I don’t have subscribers I’m taking the liberty of being much more aggressive (in terms of size) than the usual 1/2/3 contracts. I understand a large DD puts investors off but I cannot change the past, I’m confident the strategy will work well as it did for me for the past 7+ years. Any investor has the freedom to choose my strategy or others; I cannot mention the money I have made in the past 7+ years, because I cannot prove it on C2, however I’m very happy with this strategy, it’s not perfect but it works for me. I don’t always put large stop losses but from time to time it happens. Thanks

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**Author:** ![masnas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/masnas/32/12306_2.png) [@masnas](https://forums.collective2.com/u/masnas)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/7 "2018-10-12T10:29:06Z")

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Hi, I’m using the same strategy; a DD of 30k is 2% of my brokerage account therefore is very little, however I understand for any investor with 100k is 30% and it could be very worrying. Just follow the strategy and you will see how it will recover the losses, I had similar situations in the past and I recovered all losses plus profits.

Thank you

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**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/8 "2018-10-12T12:43:11Z")

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> [@masnas](#):
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> however since I don’t have subscribers I’m taking the liberty of being much more aggressive (in terms of size) than the usual 1/2/3 contracts

So what you’re saying is you’re going to trade differently when you actually get subscribers? Sounds great.

It’s pretty easy with futures to just scale your system to a lower quantity to make it close to the same as your “big money account”.

Personally I just think your full of it and trying to talk your way out of a rough drawdown (2 now). Also “Losing” has one “o”.

Good luck kid.

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/9 "2018-10-12T13:08:48Z")

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@masnas, if you are trading your own account then why don’t you make the system TOS then (linked to your brokerage account)? There are a few systems in C2 that trade over 1 million that are TOS.

I think that would be beneficial and would also bring you faster subscribers.

Will you do that?

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**Author:** ![masnas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/masnas/32/12306_2.png) [@masnas](https://forums.collective2.com/u/masnas)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/10 "2018-10-12T13:58:34Z")

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Firstly I’m not a kid! I’m a very accomplished person and I have been working my ass off to get at the level I’m now! I don’t like DDs, a system that works perfectly doesn’t exist! And since I don’t have any subscriber\<\<\< I can actually work/play with sizes of my strategy how I like it. You don’t like the way I’m trading, I will do my best to get over it.

Good luck to you; you should learn good manners and how to interact with other human beings…kid!

Kind regards,

Max

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**Author:** ![OSUTIA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/osutia/32/3401_2.png) [@OSUTIA](https://forums.collective2.com/u/OSUTIA)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/11 "2018-10-13T00:19:18Z")

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Do you just search thru the grid to find TOS system that is over 1MM?

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**Author:** ![OSUTIA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/osutia/32/3401_2.png) [@OSUTIA](https://forums.collective2.com/u/OSUTIA)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/12 "2018-10-13T00:20:07Z")

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If you are making So so so much money trading your self. Why brother to come to c2 to make a few thousand and bother to advertise on the forum?

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/13 "2018-10-13T01:39:23Z")

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@OSUTIA, there were a few that sent me private messages awhile back. I never kept track of them so not sure if they are still around anymore…lol

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/14 "2018-10-13T01:42:12Z")

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@OSUTIA, R Option is one of them still on my watchlist. It almost has a million in its portfolio.

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**Author:** ![FarhanSaadiq](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/farhansaadiq/32/12306_2.png) [@FarhanSaadiq](https://forums.collective2.com/u/FarhanSaadiq)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/15 "2018-10-23T08:03:24Z")

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> [@masnas](#):
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> I had similar situations in the past and I recovered all losses plus profits

until that one day comes and takes all those profits and more

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**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/access-invest-strategy-first-month-free/11927/16 "2018-10-23T12:09:19Z")

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> [@masnas](#):
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> I’m making a lot of money with my brokerage account

Pay no attention to his C2 drawdown. I’m sure he’s making a ton of money elsewhere. 🙄
