# Disappearing Systems? **URL:** \ **Category:** C2\ **Created:** [February 8, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434 "2016-02-08T18:43:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ChrisFreeman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/chrisfreeman/32/574_2.png) [@ChrisFreeman](https://forums.collective2.com/u/ChrisFreeman)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434/1 "2016-02-08T18:43:03Z")
@MatthewKlein A system I just looked at yesterday is no longer appearing on C2. What is going on? The system name was FinaX; the system number was 100223632. It was linked to this system developer: [https://www.collective2.com/public-activity/100223450](https://www.collective2.com/public-activity/100223450) This system is no longer accessible nor linked to the developer’s profile. How did it disappear?! ---
**Author:** ![MatthewKlein](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/matthewklein/32/21382_2.png) [@MatthewKlein](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatthewKlein)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434/2 "2016-02-08T18:58:08Z")
Chris - Systems with fewer than 6 signal entries which are not paid for are removed from the database when killed. Matthew ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFreeman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/chrisfreeman/32/574_2.png) [@ChrisFreeman](https://forums.collective2.com/u/ChrisFreeman)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434/3 "2016-02-08T19:40:41Z")
Thanks for the reply. I was curious to see if that developer’s FinaX system had the same outcome as his Torus system. It seems there is a lot of suspicious system worshiping on here recently: > [@Torus - Beautiful System](https://forums.collective2.com/t/torus-beautiful-system/8431): > > I looked at Torus, and its a beautiful system. I know the gist of what is being done underneath. The system designer will be extremely wealthy soon, the only constraints are liquidity and market conditions (volatility). I’m surprised this system has been made public. All the system creator needed to do was save some money and implement in his own account. The reason I’m positive about this system is I’ve thought of it myself a few years back. Chris About the FinaX system–I guess we will never know! ---
**Author:** ![KrishnaMukkamala](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/krishnamukkamala/32/1487_2.png) [@KrishnaMukkamala](https://forums.collective2.com/u/KrishnaMukkamala)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434/4 "2016-02-08T22:43:55Z")
lol its not worship at all, just curiosity on the underlying signal generation. But I may be wrong on what his signal generation is. Just looked like a equity curve I’m familiar with. I didn’t research the other systems created by the Torus developer. The numbers looked good. Only time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![KrishnaMukkamala](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/krishnamukkamala/32/1487_2.png) [@KrishnaMukkamala](https://forums.collective2.com/u/KrishnaMukkamala)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434/5 "2016-02-08T23:52:43Z")
![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/2332/9c68298e9b0c379e.png) the stop loss was too large for account size and quantity traded. ---
**Author:** ![c2-auto-trader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/c2-auto-trader/32/21425_2.png) [@c2-auto-trader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/c2-auto-trader)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434/6 "2016-02-09T00:02:35Z")
You need to add it to your other topic 😉 to show beauty of the system in full ---
**Author:** ![KrishnaMukkamala](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/krishnamukkamala/32/1487_2.png) [@KrishnaMukkamala](https://forums.collective2.com/u/KrishnaMukkamala)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434/7 "2016-02-09T00:11:11Z")
his signal generation had positive expectancy, but if you ride the system with excessive leverage it will crash and burn. ---
**Author:** ![KrishnaMukkamala](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/krishnamukkamala/32/1487_2.png) [@KrishnaMukkamala](https://forums.collective2.com/u/KrishnaMukkamala)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/disappearing-systems/8434/8 "2016-02-09T00:14:34Z")
![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/2334/8efecec8bf1e2b9c.png) you need to be able to tolerate unfavorable conditions to any system otherwise you wont be able to capture the end result. Look at the periods where equity deteriorated.