# Evaluating Strategies - Actual Track Records? **URL:** \ **Category:** C2\ **Created:** [March 12, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792 "2021-03-12T15:34:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GeorgeColes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/georgecoles/32/13320_2.png) [@GeorgeColes](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GeorgeColes)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/1 "2021-03-12T15:34:01Z")
Hi, I am very new to the site. I am just trying to find strategies that look interesting. All the track records seem to be hypothetical. I understand that results in subscriber accounts will vary, but is there any way to see the track record as realized in, perhaps, the strategy developer’s account? Also, transaction costs are not really broken out in the strategy statistics. I also have a hard time seeing what asset classes are traded by the strategy. I would like to see long/short tilt on average and over time. Whether a strategy is discretionary or systematic is of huge interest to me. I have more questions, but I am just exploring right now, and trying to get a feel for how to evaluate these managers. Length of track record is #1, what they trade, how concentrated their portfolio is, and how they manage risk are very important. Max DD is great for that, but I don’t see a convenient way to track portfolio concentration. thx George Coles ---
**Author:** ![InteractiveAssets](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/interactiveassets/32/13320_2.png) [@InteractiveAssets](https://forums.collective2.com/u/InteractiveAssets)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/2 "2021-03-12T15:51:17Z")
> [@Basics to Avoid Disaster IMHO](https://forums.collective2.com/t/basics-to-avoid-disaster-imho/14779): > > I have been on C2 for a while and want to share some basics on how I screen strategies. This is just one of many things to do, but I think following this helps avoid many of the strategies that eventually end up having very sudden seismic changes in performance. ---
**Author:** ![GeorgeColes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/georgecoles/32/13320_2.png) [@GeorgeColes](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GeorgeColes)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/3 "2021-03-12T17:04:55Z")
Hmmm. The mixing of hypothetical and actual trades is a bit crazy. Also how would I ever know to click on that little icon to show leverage? None of the FX programs have acceptable levels of leverage and one of them that was touted here seems not to ever make any real trades. This site is a little confusing from a UI/UX point of view. Also for me, there are only a handful of programs that look like a safe bet, but I guess that is the case with many crowd-sourced platforms. thanks for the tips ---
**Author:** ![AncientTechnique](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/ancienttechnique/32/13320_2.png) [@AncientTechnique](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AncientTechnique)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/4 "2021-03-12T23:55:01Z")
You might want to take a look at mine, called “Invincible Holy Grail” TWS is not supported by C2 so I can only place trades manually here. Depending on profit factor, transaction costs may or may not be particularly significant. Most trade stocks and futures; looking through their record gives an idea. Short term traders hold a lot of cash and equity holders are often just overleveraged longs. ---
**Author:** ![InteractiveAssets](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/interactiveassets/32/13320_2.png) [@InteractiveAssets](https://forums.collective2.com/u/InteractiveAssets)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/5 "2021-03-14T02:35:32Z")
I use TWS and BrokerTransmit to run strategies. Not sure what you mean by TWS not being supported. ---
**Author:** ![NextLevelTrader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/nextleveltrader/32/16002_2.png) [@NextLevelTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/NextLevelTrader)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/6 "2021-03-16T04:11:04Z")
I don’t see TWS on the C2 broker list. ---
**Author:** ![InteractiveAssets](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/interactiveassets/32/13320_2.png) [@InteractiveAssets](https://forums.collective2.com/u/InteractiveAssets)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/7 "2021-03-16T08:29:05Z")
I’m referring to TWS the software from Interactive Brokers. ---
**Author:** ![LCLARK23161710](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/lclark23161710/32/24259_2.png) [@LCLARK23161710](https://forums.collective2.com/u/LCLARK23161710)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/8 "2021-03-16T10:24:42Z")
Have a look at these strategies if you want profitable (but affordable) plays. Many of the below rank in the top 5% of strategies on C2, and can be combined to create an excellent overall portfolio. European Stock Basket- [EUROPEAN STOCK BASKET](https://collective2.com/details-list/131967341) Nikkei Buy and Flat- [NIKKEI BUY AND FLAT](https://collective2.com/details/131919909) Equity Basket Buy Sell- [EQUITY BASKET BUY SELL](https://collective2.com/details/130995224) SP500 Trader- [SP500 TRADER](https://collective2.com/details/130791716) Cambridge Futures: [CAMBRIDGE FUTURES](https://collective2.com/details/131319171) Global Stock Basket- [GLOBAL STOCK BASKET](https://collective2.com/details/131920216) Lrcfx and Equity Basket- [LRCFX AND EQUITY BASKET](https://collective2.com/details/129351692) TPC Ftse tracker x 3- [TPC FTSE TRACKER X 3](https://collective2.com/details/130413233) MOST OF THESE STRATEGIES HAVE RETURNED OVER 50% PER ANNUM, AND SOME 100%. MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL- THE DRAWDOWNS ARE ALL VERY MANAGEABLE. ---
**Author:** ![AlvinLee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/alvinlee/32/13320_2.png) [@AlvinLee](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlvinLee)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/9 "2021-03-16T16:59:26Z")
Please create a new thread if you want to promote strategies. Trying to market new strategies is not the topic of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![JamesThornton2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jamesthornton2/32/13320_2.png) [@JamesThornton2](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JamesThornton2)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/10 "2021-03-16T17:07:32Z")
Please do not spam the entire message board. ---
**Author:** ![GeorgeColes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/georgecoles/32/13320_2.png) [@GeorgeColes](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GeorgeColes)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/11 "2021-03-17T15:40:32Z")
Well this is a weird place. I am getting PMs from people trying to slide me their strategies. And so many programs only have a few months of history? I think this is a good platform in many ways but it seems adrift somehow. ---
**Author:** ![NextLevelTrader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/nextleveltrader/32/16002_2.png) [@NextLevelTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/NextLevelTrader)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/12 "2021-03-17T16:05:38Z")
You have to think of every strategy leader as a business owner. A business owner markets their product/service. It’s understandable for trade leaders to do simple things to try to get as much exposure even early on. Now if they are asking you to pay rather than simulate with a limited record, that’s a problem. ---
**Author:** ![AncientTechnique](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/ancienttechnique/32/13320_2.png) [@AncientTechnique](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AncientTechnique)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/13 "2021-03-17T17:22:45Z")
It’s an alt account; compare similar name to those strategies listed. Possible ban for skirting the rules? ---
**Author:** ![JamesScheibel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jamesscheibel/32/13818_2.png) [@JamesScheibel](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JamesScheibel)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/evaluating-strategies-actual-track-records/14792/15 "2021-06-09T21:07:28Z")
I would think there is a button for traders that would allow you to turn off unsolicited PMs (if you aren’t in a strategy the leader shouldnt be able to contact you) … if that isn’t the case. it seems like a great improvement to the private message system