# Futures proxy - a proxy to vix arb?

**URL:** <https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294>\
**Category:** Trading and Markets\
**Created:** [January 17, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294 "2018-01-17T14:50:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/21 "2018-01-26T16:39:10Z")

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Made private. Aw. Who didn’t see that one coming… only took 9 days from first post. LOL

“A fool and his money are soon parted”

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/22 "2018-01-26T16:50:54Z")

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Maybe he will be back under another id…thats sad.

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**Author:** ![JITF](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jitf/32/10116_2.png) [@JITF](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JITF)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/23 "2018-01-27T07:14:42Z")

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I was wondering if trade leader goes private does he lose his subs or he keeps them but can’t pass signals?

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**Author:** ![NormanBooth](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/normanbooth/32/1487_2.png) [@NormanBooth](https://forums.collective2.com/u/NormanBooth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/24 "2018-01-27T15:50:43Z")

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Maybe “C2” should immediately subscribe to each system that they offer their “stamp of approval” to for $1 a month. This would give us immediate ACCURATE trade results for the system. We need to bring in more subs in order to grow. The last thing we need is a newbie throwing all of his $ down on 1 system because he doesn’t understand how past results can be “manipulated”, then he loses 50% & tells all of his friends how he got burned on C2. By the same token, I see GOOD systems with longer track records & no subs, probably for the same reason. No confirmed history of trades.

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**Author:** ![BBTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/bbtc/32/1487_2.png) [@BBTC](https://forums.collective2.com/u/BBTC)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/25 "2018-01-28T04:28:59Z")

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Ouch, make a little profit and BAM… more than $10K loss in 1 day, btw… in statistic, he is not losing 10% yet. Good luck for a new system with crazy contracts in small capital. This is just remind me one of developer that advertise, he is only trade 5 contracts for each day $ and 1 million profit in very short term. Guess who…

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/26 "2018-01-28T17:20:53Z")

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That developer was Quanstatfutures. Still waiting for him to come up with his new system…he said he is working out the kinks and will be back soon? lol…

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**Author:** ![QFund](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/qfund/32/1487_2.png) [@QFund](https://forums.collective2.com/u/QFund)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/27 "2018-02-06T15:18:24Z")

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look who is up in this crazy times? 😮 lets give some credit where is due 😉  
Good luck to subscribers 🙂

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/28 "2018-02-06T15:53:16Z")

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Congrats! But the developer went all in with 21 contracts! lol…the gamble paid off! Its not for the faint of heart boys and girls.

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**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/29 "2018-02-06T16:02:20Z")

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This strategy is a joke. Just a matter of time before -100%. You guys can’t be serious.

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**Author:** ![AlgoSystems](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/algosystems/32/12306_2.png) [@AlgoSystems](https://forums.collective2.com/u/AlgoSystems)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/30 "2018-02-06T16:04:44Z")

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I am seriously joking…lol

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**Author:** ![QFund](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/qfund/32/1487_2.png) [@QFund](https://forums.collective2.com/u/QFund)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/31 "2018-03-08T07:27:34Z")

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another one in same category?

> **[UVXY Trader](https://collective2.com/details-list/115235820)**
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> A trading strategy on Collective2. Follow along in your own brokerage account, or try it with a free simulated account.

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**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/32 "2018-03-08T13:18:39Z")

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Yeah buy at the bid sell at the ask. Complete fake. This system is 100% bogus. Why doesn’t C2 shut these down?

Look like some idiots subscribed today. Once real money is chasing this garbage it will implode within a couple weeks. Stupid people do stupid things I guess.

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**Author:** ![QFund](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/qfund/32/1487_2.png) [@QFund](https://forums.collective2.com/u/QFund)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/33 "2018-05-24T14:01:13Z")

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Another one!

> **[US Bonds](https://collective2.com/details/117186734)**
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> US Bonds - trading strategy on Collective2

I think creation of such a system itself is automated by somebody. all that would be required as input is a name of the strategy and instrument to trade 😃

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**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/34 "2018-05-24T14:43:11Z")

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Good find @QFund !!

C2 - please shut these guys down. Another faker just like UVXY Trader and Diamond.

Apparently today he got a sub. Thus ends the party for his strategy.

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**Author:** ![QFund](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/qfund/32/1487_2.png) [@QFund](https://forums.collective2.com/u/QFund)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/35 "2018-06-28T19:34:33Z")

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here we go - for the usual 🍿

> **[Kun Fayakun](https://collective2.com/details/118608447)**
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> Kun Fayakun - trading strategy on Collective2

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**Author:** ![MatejGlavas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/matejglavas/32/12306_2.png) [@MatejGlavas](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatejGlavas)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/36 "2018-06-28T19:56:17Z")

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Not sure how he managed it.

Looking at AUDCHF trade, from 9:34 to 9:35, Bought at 0.71003 and sold at 0.73311.  
And entire day’s range is from low at 0.73026 to high at 0.73430.

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**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/37 "2018-06-28T20:07:24Z")

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> [@MatejGlavas](#):
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> Looking at AUDCHF trade, from 9:34 to 9:35, Bought at 0.71003 and sold at 0.73311.  
> And entire day’s range is from low at 0.73026 to high at 0.73430.

That’s the first thing I noticed too. So yeah, typical bid/ask spread gaming + some weird BS trades like this.

I honestly want to see if some idiot subscribes to this. Please keep this nonsense system open C2. 😂

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**Author:** ![v1Trader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/v1trader/32/1487_2.png) [@v1Trader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/v1Trader)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/futures-proxy-a-proxy-to-vix-arb/11294/38 "2018-06-28T20:31:41Z")

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Subs yes, but no autotraders are live for trades yet, so the show is still on!

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