# I invite you to take a look at my strategy **URL:** \ **Category:** C2\ **Created:** [August 24, 2017, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888 "2017-08-24T10:36:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MaratOyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MaratOyro](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MaratOyro)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/1 "2017-08-24T10:36:52Z")
I invite you to take a look at my strategy. The strategy is young and statistics is not enough. I just want to draw your attention to my strategy. If you add my strategy to the wish list, I will be grateful. There is a free test period of 7 days. Also, I am ready to provide a discount coupon to those who decide to subscribe to my strategy in August and September. Coupon: UGJK3726 > **[1-stratosphere](https://collective2.com/details/112784568)** > > A trading strategy on Collective2. Follow along in your own brokerage account, or try it with a free simulated account. ---
**Author:** ![QuantStatFutures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/quantstatfutures/32/13518_2.png) [@QuantStatFutures](https://forums.collective2.com/u/QuantStatFutures)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/2 "2017-08-24T11:03:36Z")
Hi Marat, Thank you for sharing. I’m looking over your trades and I had a few questions if you don’t mind. I noticed you started at the end of July and a lot of your trades consisted of 1 to 4 contracts with a few exceptions of 5 and 6. One thing that stood out were two trades on 8/11 and 8/17 which had 24 contracts and 20 contacts respectfully. For the trade on 8/11 it appears you started the same with one contract short and started adding contracts as the market went higher against you. It looks like you started shorting at 2440 and shorted all the way up to 2472. I have a few questions. Is this a monte carlo system where you would just add more contracts until the market comes back? The other question is how do you handle scale as your normal contract size is much smaller but you built into a 24 lot on this day? And the final question is I noticed the system sent you a margin call for this trade twice. How did you handle these margin calls? I am a system developer myself and am always interested. I ask all this because I went long on 8/11 but am always curious the thinking behind the other side of the trade. Thanks Marat!!! And good luck with your new system looks great so far. ---
**Author:** ![MaratOyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MaratOyro](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MaratOyro)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/3 "2017-08-24T11:43:18Z")
Good afternoon. I do not know for sure, maybe the Monte Carlo elements are present in my strategy. Yes, I had a margin call several times - I did not have time to shorten the position on time, this C2 did instead of me. ---
**Author:** ![QuantStatFutures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/quantstatfutures/32/13518_2.png) [@QuantStatFutures](https://forums.collective2.com/u/QuantStatFutures)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/4 "2017-08-24T14:30:03Z")
Thanks for that explanation. I’ve been trading since the late 90s and still feel like I’m a student of the market. I never feel like I’ve gotten it all figured out. I’m always open to learn and keep an open mind. Who knows I may learn something new from a guy brand new to trading with a $5k account. So I’m always looking into how I can improve. Thanks again and GL. ---
**Author:** ![TT3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/tt3/32/238_2.png) [@TT3](https://forums.collective2.com/u/TT3)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/5 "2017-08-24T14:51:08Z")
unfortunately you won’t get many people or anyone to sign up. for the account size no one will be able to handle the risk or margin since you trade up to 24ES. This is straight gambling. There was another system here that did the same thing a few months ago and then it went belly up. > **[Alpha and Omega](https://collective2.com/details/110267102)** > > A trading strategy on Collective2. Follow along in your own brokerage account, or try it with a free simulated account. ---
**Author:** ![TT40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/tt40/32/10610_2.png) [@TT40](https://forums.collective2.com/u/TT40)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/6 "2017-08-24T19:16:41Z")
24c on a account that is about 30k-50k, is that even possible in a real account? ---
**Author:** ![MatejGlavas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/matejglavas/32/12306_2.png) [@MatejGlavas](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatejGlavas)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/7 "2017-08-24T19:31:53Z")
You have some deep discount brokers that let you open 1 ES for 500 $ for daytrade. But if I am not mistaken, they limit number of contracts you can open. Is that smart, that is other question. ---
**Author:** ![QuantStatFutures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/quantstatfutures/32/13518_2.png) [@QuantStatFutures](https://forums.collective2.com/u/QuantStatFutures)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/8 "2017-08-24T19:36:50Z")
Not smart. Please please please don’t trade 10 ES contracts if you have a $5k account. When your account reaches $100k the margin doubles. That’s how the broker increases it. ---
**Author:** ![BBTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/bbtc/32/1487_2.png) [@BBTC](https://forums.collective2.com/u/BBTC)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/9 "2017-08-24T21:38:41Z")
Hi Marat , how can you explain to ur subscribers if they have same NAV on Augst 22 n use 100% scale. At that time, you use 25 contracts and ur NAV is less than $50k. If u have acct at IB. 1 contracts require appx $3,500 n use used 25 contracts. That’s means, the IB account must have at least $87,500. Do you see that’s the big issue between paper money and real acct? I can understand if you can argue, you just a developer who give the signal. U will suggest to use 25 contracts if the subscribers has the same NAV like you, but we are talking about reality. That’s not gonna happen. IB will not allow to trade 25 contracts with the acct value less than $ 50 k. So, what is the conclusion then? Your recommendation is not visible to ur subscribers. ---
**Author:** ![CarpetHooligan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/carpethooligan/32/1487_2.png) [@CarpetHooligan](https://forums.collective2.com/u/CarpetHooligan)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/10 "2017-08-24T23:47:14Z")
Hi Marat, I’m curious if you could explain when your strategy decides to just take the loss? Do you use some max risk % of total account or just if loss is greater than some amount of points? The scaling into losses like in these examples are pretty scary: ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/2X/4/4b5acc12fe77b565cbf68a3b7fe86187d179cdac.png) ---
**Author:** ![MaratOyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MaratOyro](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MaratOyro)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/11 "2017-08-25T06:36:20Z")
I used the intraday margin that C2 gives: Day: $1,407 ---
**Author:** ![MaratOyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MaratOyro](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MaratOyro)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/12 "2017-08-25T06:40:40Z")
This issue is still in the process of formalization. Sometimes I’m too confident in the movement of the market and open too much position. The market punishes me for it. ---
**Author:** ![BBTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/bbtc/32/1487_2.png) [@BBTC](https://forums.collective2.com/u/BBTC)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/i-invite-you-to-take-a-look-at-my-strategy/10888/13 "2017-08-25T12:45:59Z")
You should adjust ur size of contracts to IB requirements since ur most potential customers is using IB. Which is $3,500 during US Markets n arround $7k during non US markets. If your subscribers is loosing money because they can’t follow ur signals, no one will get benefit eventhough u r make profit at C2. By the way, non martingale systems works, there are so many examples in here. Good luck