# Is there really alpha in average traders?

**URL:** <https://forums.collective2.com/t/is-there-really-alpha-in-average-traders/11868>\
**Category:** C2\
**Created:** [August 17, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/is-there-really-alpha-in-average-traders/11868 "2018-08-17T15:52:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![JITF](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jitf/32/24092_2.png) [@JITF](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JITF)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/is-there-really-alpha-in-average-traders/11868/1 "2018-08-17T15:52:01Z")

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Continuing the discussion from [Why is C2 so greedy?](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-is-c2-so-greedy/11825/131):

> [@Why is C2 so greedy?](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-is-c2-so-greedy/11825/131):
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> Just my opinion.
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> C2 needs at least a dozen of good, a bit conservative systems.  
> That was for some time (ignore results now), Simplicity trading, Conserv profit,  
> McProtrader, FuturesWealthBuilder…  
> Lot of people invested there, made profit but most got wiped out in few days.
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> Then we had a lot of VIX related strategies, that were shorting VIX products.  
> All went nicely until February.
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> No subscriber has that amount of money to follow all those crashes.
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> Better question is this: Is there really alpha in average traders?

Unfortunately Matthew locked the thread, but the question raised in the last post is really good and I have my couple cents on this. 🙂

I am answering Yes on this question and the reason is just 2 c2 strategies - The Spirit of Nicolas Darvas. and The Momentum of Now. I am not sure that it is an average trader stands behind these 2 strategies, but results are impressive.