# MAP(famous sc\*\*\*\* Michael) created new account M8888 **URL:** \ **Category:** Trading and Markets\ **Created:** [April 25, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468 "2024-04-25T09:06:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JimGates](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jimgates/32/13320_2.png) [@JimGates](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JimGates)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/1 "2024-04-25T09:06:20Z")
ATTENTION! MAP(famous sc\*\*\*\*) created new account M8888! With a high win rate -martingale system again. Be careful! “Old” members know him. ---
**Author:** ![SeanKelly11](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/seankelly11/32/19323_2.png) [@SeanKelly11](https://forums.collective2.com/u/SeanKelly11)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/2 "2024-04-25T11:59:18Z")
Interesting. For newer members, can you enlighten us? Or give us enough information to do our own due diligence which is probably a better idea. ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/3 "2024-04-30T17:20:45Z")
He’s been here for years. Here’s his site: [https://en.pfsignal.com/statistics](https://en.pfsignal.com/statistics) Just does martingale systems until they blow up, then starts a new one. Always looks nice at first, until it implodes, every time… Then he erases his history on C2… 🤡 ---
**Author:** ![MAP](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/map/32/2650_2.png) [@MAP](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MAP)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/4 "2024-10-11T01:18:49Z")
Hello, I continue to optimize my system. Corrected errors. The system has become more reliable and stable. 1. M8888 (FX futures CME) + 419.9%\*, max dd - 42.6% | [https://collective2.com/details/146821622](https://collective2.com/details/146821622) | This is an aggressive risk system, more profit, but also more risk. Suggested Minimum Capital 50,000 USD 2. M8888 LR (FX futures CME) + 21.1%\*, max dd - 14.2% | [M8888 LR](https://collective2.com/details/148973825) | This system is identical to my M8888 system (FX futures CME). The difference in risks (conservative approach to risk), entry points, exit points are the same. Suggested Minimum Capital 100,000 USD 3. M8888 FX (Forex) + 41.6%\*, max dd - 20.5% | [https://collective2.com/details/148973929](https://collective2.com/details/148973929) | This system is identical to my M8888 system (FX futures CME). The only difference is in the trading markets, one is forex, the other is CME currency futures. The risks, entry points, exit points are the same. Suggested Minimum Capital 10,000 USD 4. For new customers, individual discounts for the first three months of connection. 5. Attention! To be honest with you, this is not my first profile here. I had great periods here, when the number of paid subscribers was about 100 and the amount under management was about 7 million USD (this is the period from February 2018 to July 2019). For 2018, a profit of 88% was shown, but then 95% of customers left due to a profit of 16% per year!!! From experience I can say that low drawdowns and moderate profit (10-25% per year) are of little interest here, and when you start showing such a result 80-90 percent of clients leave. Strategies with large profits, which lead to large drawdowns in the future, are very popular. This is a pattern and a vicious circle. The more profit the more drawdown awaits you in the future. Therefore, I began to use my system with aggressive risks, which led to a series of failures. Therefore, when subscribing to the system, be sure to set the risk limit acceptable for you in your profile. 6. In the period from November 2021 to October 2022, I had the ARK system here, until May 2022 there was a stable growth of customers, excellent results for six months, a profit of more than 250%, the number of paid subscribers is slightly more than 100, funds are 15 million USD. Then I started trading more conservatively (less risky) and the number of subscribers dropped by 9 times in 3 months!!! I started trading again but more aggressively and this eventually resulted in an error, there was a large drawdown when selling USD/JPY due to the high leverage I took, the idea was right to sell 145-147-150 take profit 135-133 -131, but very poor execution resulted in a loss. I’m the only one to blame for this and there’s no excuse for it. Now I’m back. Take a break from trading. During this time, I have optimized my system, leaving only the best algorithms there, and optimizing risk management. I believe in my system. Michael October 11, 2024 ---
**Author:** ![SeanKelly11](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/seankelly11/32/19323_2.png) [@SeanKelly11](https://forums.collective2.com/u/SeanKelly11)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/5 "2024-10-11T02:02:03Z")
I understand where you’re coming from with this post. I’ve had a similar experience myself. My system isn’t particularly exciting—it’s actually pretty boring. It’s done well overall and is hedged, but like all systems, it goes through drawdowns. I used to wonder why I wasn’t gaining followers, but now I realize what’s really key to long-term success here on C2. You need a system that’s steady, with a consistent, solid equity curve—think a 45-degree angle—and manageable drawdowns. If you’re looking for guidance, I’d highly recommend reaching out to @GaryLynn2. He knows more about how this platform works than anyone I’ve communicated with. I’m sure he’ll reach out when he sees your post. Best of luck! ---
**Author:** ![JITF](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jitf/32/10116_2.png) [@JITF](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JITF)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/6 "2024-10-11T02:29:22Z")
> [@MAP](#): > > I continue to optimize my system. Corrected errors. The system has become more reliable and stable. What I was wondering after several of your returns - do you fail same subs accounts with each trading system failure or these are new subs each time? ---
**Author:** ![InteractiveAssets](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/interactiveassets/32/13320_2.png) [@InteractiveAssets](https://forums.collective2.com/u/InteractiveAssets)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/7 "2024-10-11T23:26:25Z")
Welcome back. In the description it says > My public verified trading results | 2011 + 12.11% | 2012 + 105.51% | 2013 + 272.49% | 2014 + 182.49% | 2015 + 121.17% | 2016 + 65.57% | 2017 + 18.24% | 2018 + 88.6% | 2019 +16.5%. Can you point to where this is? I can’t seem to find the strategy? ---
**Author:** ![MAP](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/map/32/2650_2.png) [@MAP](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MAP)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/8 "2024-10-12T02:49:09Z")
Post from April 30. You can take a look. ---
**Author:** ![InteractiveAssets](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/interactiveassets/32/13320_2.png) [@InteractiveAssets](https://forums.collective2.com/u/InteractiveAssets)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/9 "2024-10-12T14:35:54Z")
Can you provide the link to it? I don’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![M8888](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/m8888/32/19741_2.png) [@M8888](https://forums.collective2.com/u/M8888)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/10 "2024-10-16T16:45:40Z")
Post from April 30. You can take a look. ---
**Author:** ![JITF](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jitf/32/10116_2.png) [@JITF](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JITF)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/11 "2024-10-17T02:12:38Z")
This is probably the link [https://en.pfsignal.com/statistics](https://en.pfsignal.com/statistics) But verified track (let’s call it this way) is with collective2 only from 2018. Also it looks like only profitable period of strategies is included in the stats. ---
**Author:** ![M8888](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/m8888/32/19741_2.png) [@M8888](https://forums.collective2.com/u/M8888)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/12 "2024-10-18T11:30:20Z")
Hello, I continue to optimize my systems: 1. M8888 (FX futures CME) 2. M8888 LR (FX futures CME) 3. M8888 FX (Forex) I closed the Japanese yen position to reduce the risks of carrying over positions over the weekend. I am leaving the Swiss franc position for the weekend. Thank you for your interest in my system. Have a nice weekend. Michael October 18, 2024 ---
**Author:** ![TrendAlert](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/trendalert/32/18645_2.png) [@TrendAlert](https://forums.collective2.com/u/TrendAlert)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/14 "2024-10-23T16:13:39Z")
Wah Wah Wah WIPEOUT. ---
**Author:** ![FabianKlare](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/fabianklare/32/21991_2.png) [@FabianKlare](https://forums.collective2.com/u/FabianKlare)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/15 "2024-10-24T05:17:31Z")
What kind of expectations do you have with a max leverage of over 40? Of course the system will crash at some point. I hope everyone is aware of that. If the system suffers a loss of 3% without leverage, a leverage of 40 would result in a loss of 100%. ---
**Author:** ![M8888](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/m8888/32/19741_2.png) [@M8888](https://forums.collective2.com/u/M8888)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/16 "2024-12-02T10:07:41Z")
Hello, The goal for December 2024 is to try to update the maximum on the profit curve. Thank you for your interest in my system and your subscriptions. M8888 (FX futures CME) + 384.0%, max dd - 42.6% | https://\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*/details/146821622 | This is an aggressive risk system, more profit, but also more risk. Michael December 2, 2024 ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/map-famous-sc-michael-created-new-account-m8888/16468/17 "2025-01-25T21:17:08Z")
Hah! Stopping back here after a long time and this guy is STILL starting the same martingale-levered systems and blowing up customer funds. Never change. 🤣