# Rookie Trade Leader Question **URL:** \ **Category:** C2\ **Created:** [June 5, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661 "2018-06-05T16:50:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SelfQuant](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/selfquant/32/12306_2.png) [@SelfQuant](https://forums.collective2.com/u/SelfQuant)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/1 "2018-06-05T16:50:12Z")
Hopefully this has a quick answer. I know the quotes that C2 gets on the System Dashboard are delayed - however I’m very confused why the open positions show a very different P&L than the Dashboard itself. Which one is correct and why are the different? Main Dashboard ![39%20AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/2X/d/de669847d010a21065ecadc17a1a8fa3dc29504a.png) Position Page ![50%20AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/2X/e/e2366ec9b2cea643413fbd79da72f7908a66e513.png) ---
**Author:** ![GonzaloLoayza2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/gonzaloloayza2/32/238_2.png) [@GonzaloLoayza2](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GonzaloLoayza2)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/2 "2018-06-05T19:25:05Z")
I do not know why these differences occur. I find these inconsistencies every day in my three models. ---
**Author:** ![OSUTIA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/osutia/32/3401_2.png) [@OSUTIA](https://forums.collective2.com/u/OSUTIA)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/3 "2018-06-05T19:34:43Z")
one is current position PL. one is PL change base since date of subscription. unless you have never closed any position since strategy inception. ---
**Author:** ![SelfQuant](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/selfquant/32/12306_2.png) [@SelfQuant](https://forums.collective2.com/u/SelfQuant)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/4 "2018-06-05T19:36:34Z")
I’m looking at the Today column - I would assume that that’s my P&L today - that should be the same as the Today P&L on the Dashboard though - right? ---
**Author:** ![OSUTIA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/osutia/32/3401_2.png) [@OSUTIA](https://forums.collective2.com/u/OSUTIA)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/5 "2018-06-05T19:40:20Z")
do you have yesterday’s position page or image? todays PL change just subscribe the difference between yesterdays position PL and todays/current PL ---
**Author:** ![SelfQuant](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/selfquant/32/12306_2.png) [@SelfQuant](https://forums.collective2.com/u/SelfQuant)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/6 "2018-06-05T19:49:33Z")
Unfortunately don’t have yesterday’s pic. What’s confusing is - all brokers have a daily P&L change - which basically shows how much the open positions changed from yesterday’s close price (\* nbr of shares). That number on the main dashboard should closely mimic the position page. In both cases this should only be calculated based on open positions. I wouldn’t mind if they’re slightly off - maybe the quotes are sampled or come in with different schedules - however one page (Dashboard) shows decent green while the position page shows red on all positions for the daily P&L. ---
**Author:** ![OSUTIA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/osutia/32/3401_2.png) [@OSUTIA](https://forums.collective2.com/u/OSUTIA)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/7 "2018-06-05T19:51:56Z")
take a screenshot of your position balance at 12am and look at it tomorrow’s PL im looking at your strategy graph. everything looks correct. i believe your open position PL page has a delay. 40min or a hour. cant remember. ---
**Author:** ![SelfQuant](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/selfquant/32/12306_2.png) [@SelfQuant](https://forums.collective2.com/u/SelfQuant)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/8 "2018-06-05T20:05:39Z")
Osutai - thx so much for your help so far - you’re definitely speeding up my learning curve on here ---
**Author:** ![Pete](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/pete/32/12306_2.png) [@Pete](https://forums.collective2.com/u/Pete)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/9 "2018-06-06T11:56:43Z")
I find that the Dashboard Today P/L column is often wrong - containing a non-zero value for a system that has not had any trades in the day…reflecting the previous day’s activity. I don’t know what the cutoff is for “today” but it is not correct. ---
**Author:** ![SelfQuant](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/selfquant/32/12306_2.png) [@SelfQuant](https://forums.collective2.com/u/SelfQuant)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/10 "2018-06-06T14:47:54Z")
I agree the P&L is unusable. Here’s what it looked like 30 minutes before market open this morning - grabbed a SShot based on the advise in the thread ![43%20AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/2X/1/1e5fe314e4c7e567c94266637979edc3d558e6c4.png) ![26%20AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/2X/4/46352200d2a6c3a65dfe8f12ec4ae3e11f03b7d8.png) As you can see the Dashboard show’s yesterday’s values, the Open positions show whatever they want - neither one is correct. Then about 5 minutes before market open the dashboard resets to 0 - however the open positions do not. ![14%20AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/2X/9/9a9214e628b492402ac7cbaaf779e6e9898b04fd.png) Not sure if that is on purpose of if C2 doesn’t care about this (I’m assuming this impacts every trader or at least the ones that trade stocks). If you want to professionally manage systems you better have a platform that works correctly. Every single trading platform I use offers a correct Daily P&L for free - on here I feel like I’m getting nickel and dimed just to have API access and can’t use any of the reporting capabilities. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BruceSpike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/brucespike/32/12306_2.png) [@BruceSpike](https://forums.collective2.com/u/BruceSpike)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/rookie-trade-leader-question/11661/11 "2018-06-06T17:28:13Z")
I’ve wondered about all this stuff too myself. Can’t count the times I’ve looked over C2 site and mumbled the words, “now why is it like that?”