# Scaling subscription cost
**URL:** https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940
**Category:** C2
**Created:** [May 16, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940 "2019-05-16T10:59:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@MAP](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MAP)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/1 "2019-05-16T10:59:00Z")
Hello,
Why don’t you scale the subscription cost.
Example,
The developer of statistics for 10,000 trades 1 lot, the cost of a subscription is 49.
The client copies to 50,000 and copies 5 lots, the subscription price is 49 \* 5 = 245.
The client copies to 70,000 and copies 7 lots, the subscription price is 49 \* 7 = 343.
The client copies to 10,000 and copies 2 lots, the subscription price is 49 \* 2 = 98.
So be fair and honest.
Michael
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### Author:  [@DwightSchrute](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DwightSchrute)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/2 "2019-05-17T14:22:11Z")
Could you as the leader just do that yourself? Just set your price high and give coupons to smaller accounts?
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### Author:  [@JITF](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JITF)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/3 "2019-05-17T14:38:16Z")
For subs who use scaling of more than 1.0 you sell exactly the same signals as for clients who uses scaling of 1.0. You don’t do more work, so why to pay more money?
Here at c2 you just sell signals, but not manage subs money.
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### Author:  [@v1Trader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/v1Trader)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/4 "2019-05-17T16:35:08Z")
as per many forum entries here on C2:
> [@](#):
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> You are allowed by Federal law to be a PUBLISHER of information. You thus avoid all the CTA registraton and reporting. But This means NO individual advice, no knowledge of your client’s account size, etc.
>
> You ARE being properly compensated. As a publisher.
That posted answer to a similar question is about 12 years old, but still valid. So the answer comes from the attorneys. We publish signals, others subscribe and use them as they see fit. C2 helps the subscribers manage trades, and feeds them our signals. But we are not qualified legally to do other than this. IANAL, but this is my understanding of the situation.
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### Author:  [@MAP](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MAP)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/5 "2019-05-17T17:15:34Z")
> [@DwightSchrute](#):
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> Could you as the leader just do that yourself? Just set your price high and give coupons to smaller accounts?
As an option, but it is not effective.
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### Author:  [@MAP](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MAP)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/6 "2019-05-17T17:25:06Z")
> [@JITF](#):
>
> For subs who use scaling of more than 1.0 you sell exactly the same signals as for clients who uses scaling of 1.0. You don’t do more work, so why to pay more money?
>
> Here at c2 you just sell signals, but not manage subs money.
In your opinion, when a client with 10K pays for a subscription, 79, like a client with 250K also pays 79. I manage the funds and bear reputational risks. For me, these are not empty words. I have a moral responsibility to customers. I try to do everything so well with their bills.
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### Author:  [@MAP](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MAP)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/7 "2019-05-17T17:30:00Z")
> [@v1Trader](#):
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> as per many forum entries here on C2:
>
> > You are allowed by Federal law to be a PUBLISHER of information. You thus avoid all the CTA registraton and reporting. But This means NO individual advice, no knowledge of your client’s account size, etc.
> >
> > You ARE being properly compensated. As a publisher.
>
> That posted answer to a similar question is about 12 years old, but still valid. So the answer comes from the attorneys. We publish signals, others subscribe and use them as they see fit. C2 helps the subscribers manage trades, and feeds them our signals. But we are not qualified legally to do other than this. IANAL, but this is my understanding of the situation.
Other competitors have this feature. Hide deals for clients (the result is visible only on clearing once a day) + fee scaling (depending on the lot) + risk control. So fair and better to go to them.
Why do you need free subscriptions here? So the resource itself can create hundreds of bots every day and create visible activity. And who will sign for a fee here a maximum of 250-300 people for the entire project.
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### Author:  [@MatthewKlein](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatthewKlein)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/8 "2019-05-17T17:37:30Z")
Let me just nip this conversation in the bud. We’re unable to move in this direction, due to regulatory constraints. Sorry.
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### Author:  [@MAP](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MAP)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/9 "2019-05-17T18:44:05Z")
> [@MatthewKlein](#):
>
> Let me just nip this conversation in the bud. We’re unable to move in this direction, due to regulatory constraints. Sorry.
Thanks. No more questions. All clear.
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### Author:  [@JITF](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JITF)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/10 "2019-05-17T23:45:14Z")
> [@MAP](#):
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> In your opinion, when a client with 10K pays for a subscription, 79, like a client with 250K also pays 79.
I see no problem with it. But I see a problem that you feel yourself underpaid. 🙂 It is just greed.
> [@MAP](#):
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> I manage the funds
You are not, you sell signals.
> [@MAP](#):
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> and bear reputational risks. For me, these are not empty words. I have a moral responsibility to customers. I try to do everything so well with their bills.
This is good, but how does this behavior depend on the fee size? Lesser the fee - lesser the responsibility?
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### Author:  [@Swing-Trader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/Swing-Trader)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/11 "2019-05-18T02:08:01Z")
> [@MAP](#):
>
> Why don’t you scale the subscription cost.
>
> Example,
>
> The developer of statistics for 10,000 trades 1 lot, the cost of a subscription is 49.
>
> The client copies to 70,000 and copies 7 lots, the subscription price is 49 \* 7 = 343.
>
> So be fair and honest
If a trade lose 1k/lot. Who pay 6k (difference) for the client copying 7 lots?
You may increase the fee higher “to be fair and honest“ as your expectations.
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### Author:  [@MatthewKlein](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatthewKlein)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/scaling-subscription-cost/12940/12 "2019-05-19T14:43:12Z")