# Small Account Futures: Just crossed 400% All time high mark **URL:** \ **Category:** Trading and Markets\ **Created:** [November 7, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225 "2021-11-07T16:48:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aarjay\_singh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/aarjay_singh/32/21957_2.png) [@aarjay\_singh](https://forums.collective2.com/u/aarjay_singh)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/21 "2021-12-21T02:45:59Z")
check out this. > **[These 7 ETFs Were the Best of 2021](https://money.usnews.com/investing/etfs/slideshows/best-performing-etfs)** > > Each of these funds outperformed the S&P 500 this year. > **[9 Best Index Funds for Long-Term Investors | The Motley Fool](https://www.fool.com/investing/how-to-invest/index-funds/best-index-funds/)** > > The nine best index funds to buy and hold in the coming year. ---
**Author:** ![aarjay\_singh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/aarjay_singh/32/21957_2.png) [@aarjay\_singh](https://forums.collective2.com/u/aarjay_singh)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/22 "2021-12-21T02:49:36Z")
More for you from October. ![Screen Shot 2021-12-20 at 9.48.43 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/3X/6/0/601a8ba0a0e99e2da9068ef54d6ab52a6c31a360.png) ![Screen Shot 2021-12-20 at 9.48.18 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/3X/3/2/32d693f3a85f889c62a2419ddc282036fe113459.png) ![Screen Shot 2021-12-20 at 9.48.12 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/3X/d/9/d949bc02b56c31079e77a219fac1fd948c1ff801.png) ---
**Author:** ![InteractiveAssets](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/interactiveassets/32/13320_2.png) [@InteractiveAssets](https://forums.collective2.com/u/InteractiveAssets)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/23 "2021-12-21T02:50:34Z")
Yes, and I’m sure I will have some bad ones in the future too. ---
**Author:** ![NextLevelTrader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/nextleveltrader/32/16002_2.png) [@NextLevelTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/NextLevelTrader)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/24 "2021-12-21T03:11:40Z")
Cherry picking a snapshot in time. Keep it up brotha! ---
**Author:** ![JimGates](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jimgates/32/13320_2.png) [@JimGates](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JimGates)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/25 "2021-12-21T07:34:41Z")
🤣 🤣 🤣 🍿 what a show) ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/26 "2021-12-21T13:54:32Z")
> [@aarjay\_singh](#): > > Look at this genius who talks about 75% down. Never made any money nor he has the capacity to make it. Brainless child. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/3X/b/7/b7737aec1051d36d279fd926a98b96907bfdc403.png) I guess you couldn’t tell I stopped running it here in April 2017. But I guess that was hard to tell? 🤣 At least you made money off your subscribers, right? That’s what really matters here. ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/27 "2021-12-21T13:58:30Z")
> [@aarjay\_singh](#): > > I feel bad about users who come here and read-only about DD’s. Well you know when you have several 75% and 80% drawdowns in your first year of trading (meaning a 100% DD is inevitable), along with no TOS and outrageous fees, it’s typically a giant red flag for any investor on C2. People don’t like to see their money evaporate while the trade leader suffers zero consequences. ---
**Author:** ![aarjay\_singh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/aarjay_singh/32/21957_2.png) [@aarjay\_singh](https://forums.collective2.com/u/aarjay_singh)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/28 "2021-12-21T13:58:41Z")
Nah. We highly discourage subscribers. that’s why we have the max subscription cost on c2. C2 doesn’t allow more than that otherwise we would have kept that. One big red flag when strategy managers sell underperforming strategies with the name of low cost. You forgot again the risk/reward lesson I gave you. But doesn’t matter, your strategies never reward anything above the index fund so no need to worry about any of your strategies. ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/29 "2021-12-21T14:01:28Z")
> [@aarjay\_singh](#): > > We highly discourage subscribers This gets better and better. Good news for you - the \>80% DD should take care of alot of that. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![aarjay\_singh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/aarjay_singh/32/21957_2.png) [@aarjay\_singh](https://forums.collective2.com/u/aarjay_singh)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/30 "2021-12-21T14:14:22Z")
You will be wrong just like your underperforming strategies. ---
**Author:** ![aarjay\_singh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/aarjay_singh/32/21957_2.png) [@aarjay\_singh](https://forums.collective2.com/u/aarjay_singh)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/31 "2021-12-21T18:27:00Z")
YTD 160 percent. ![Screen Shot 2021-12-21 at 1.25.46 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/3X/e/c/ec72c7f5ca05ddd59cb44f4a054a6a751d86b243.png) ---
**Author:** ![JITF](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jitf/32/10116_2.png) [@JITF](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JITF)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/32 "2021-12-21T18:41:19Z")
> [@aarjay\_singh](#): > > YTD 160 percent. yep and around -33% since the first sub joined. and most of the subs money joined around 11/5, so for them it will be -47%. ---
**Author:** ![FarhanSaadiq](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/farhansaadiq/32/12306_2.png) [@FarhanSaadiq](https://forums.collective2.com/u/FarhanSaadiq)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/33 "2021-12-21T19:00:40Z")
> [@aarjay\_singh](#): > > YTD 160 percent. amazing. Every time I look at your system, there is an element of surprise. I have seen 400% to almost 0% now to 160% in the last 3-4 days. I am glad you think its your skill. But at the same time I am really amazed too! either you are also having fun along with us, then all good. If you are really serious, well, come on, you can’t be serious! Those margin-called subscribers could have have saved $595 by investing into a good unbiased coin to toss ---
**Author:** ![NextLevelTrader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/nextleveltrader/32/16002_2.png) [@NextLevelTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/NextLevelTrader)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/34 "2021-12-21T19:40:28Z")
By the look of his equity graph and how correlated it is to the market the past couple of months I know he is holding an equivalent of 5 NQ contracts. The average capital requirement for that is about $100K. The model account went below that a month ago. So margin call for those trading at the same size. ---
**Author:** ![aarjay\_singh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/aarjay_singh/32/21957_2.png) [@aarjay\_singh](https://forums.collective2.com/u/aarjay_singh)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/35 "2021-12-21T20:33:10Z")
YTD 200 percent. ![Screen Shot 2021-12-21 at 4.08.33 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/3X/3/0/3069b9d8574f893cbb1def51f3138a5f08830905.png) ---
**Author:** ![JITF](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jitf/32/10116_2.png) [@JITF](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JITF)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/36 "2021-12-21T21:24:59Z")
> [@aarjay\_singh](#): > > YTD 200 percent. -17% / -40% for subs. Hope subs (who didn’t get out of the position by margin call during this trading) will get their capitals back. ---
**Author:** ![NextLevelTrader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/nextleveltrader/32/16002_2.png) [@NextLevelTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/NextLevelTrader)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/37 "2021-12-21T21:41:23Z")
Strategy is up over $35,000 for the day. Huh, NQ ran up 350 points so 5 contracts would be $35,000 swing. You have to hold on to all those contracts until it breaks another record high just to get a breakeven and maybe some profit. Why did you go long at the market top? ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/39 "2021-12-22T19:51:23Z")
Dude. Enough already. You’re just levered long to the hilt to the market. A couple down days like we’ve had this month and it’s margin call and your account is blown up completely unless you unwind the trade. Simple. No one here is impressed. Anyone can lever themselves on futures and show triple digit returns… For a while at least… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![aarjay\_singh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/aarjay_singh/32/21957_2.png) [@aarjay\_singh](https://forums.collective2.com/u/aarjay_singh)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/40 "2021-12-22T22:16:28Z")
YTD 356% ![Screen Shot 2021-12-23 at 12.07.22 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/collective2/original/3X/5/4/5464eb8d79989b5613c39ef572545770ef9113a0.png) ---
**Author:** ![JimGates](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/jimgates/32/13320_2.png) [@JimGates](https://forums.collective2.com/u/JimGates)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/small-account-futures-just-crossed-400-all-time-high-mark/15225/41 "2021-12-23T09:02:33Z")
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