# What system would attract you as an investor **URL:** \ **Category:** C2\ **Created:** [September 1, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/what-system-would-attract-you-as-an-investor/14356 "2020-09-01T21:17:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kirov](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/kirov/32/15680_2.png) [@Kirov](https://forums.collective2.com/u/Kirov)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/what-system-would-attract-you-as-an-investor/14356/1 "2020-09-01T21:17:08Z")
bassicaly tittle, but what % DD /%gain / leverage, you would be okay with,realistically. What an Trade leader should present to attract you as an investor ---
**Author:** ![LiveForexSignals](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/liveforexsignals/32/1905_2.png) [@LiveForexSignals](https://forums.collective2.com/u/LiveForexSignals)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/what-system-would-attract-you-as-an-investor/14356/2 "2020-09-01T22:05:11Z")
It’s hard to answer that question. There are plenty of systems with 50% or even 100% drawdown that still attract paying subscribers. And there are systems that produce a solid 20% ROI with 10% drawdown and yet they get little or no attention. Go figure why. ---
**Author:** ![DogZebra\_Investing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/dogzebra_investing/32/5086_2.png) [@DogZebra\_Investing](https://forums.collective2.com/u/DogZebra_Investing)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/what-system-would-attract-you-as-an-investor/14356/3 "2020-09-10T20:01:03Z")
A system that: -Doesn’t use insane leverage. -Doesn’t martingale or triple up on losers. -Has stop losses in place. -Is an automated or rules-based system, not qualitative random calls. -Can perform in good and bad markets. -Doesn’t come on the forum every day talking about how great their system is or what amazing risk management they have. 😉 Drawdowns happen. But a truly good system will take them in stride and keep on ticking. Prefer those futures systems that simply trade one contract at a time, or forex systems that use a set amount of contracts at a time and do it well over time. ---
**Author:** ![PhilD1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/phild1/32/5525_2.png) [@PhilD1](https://forums.collective2.com/u/PhilD1)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/what-system-would-attract-you-as-an-investor/14356/4 "2020-09-12T18:50:50Z")
What DogZebra said. ^^^^ ---
**Author:** ![EthosPortfolio](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/ethosportfolio/32/13320_2.png) [@EthosPortfolio](https://forums.collective2.com/u/EthosPortfolio)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/what-system-would-attract-you-as-an-investor/14356/5 "2020-09-14T03:29:46Z")
@DogZebra_Investing makes extremely good points for a futures or forex strategy. I would only add that a detailed description of the strategy and trades that match the strategy’s description is also something I would look for. I’m amazed at how many strategies have a blank description or a simple line or two. ---
**Author:** ![LewPayne](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/lewpayne/32/238_2.png) [@LewPayne](https://forums.collective2.com/u/LewPayne)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/what-system-would-attract-you-as-an-investor/14356/6 "2020-09-19T08:02:51Z")
> [@Kirov](#): > > what % DD /%gain / leverage, would attract you Very simple… a system that: - Trades mostly intra-day and closes **all trades** by EOM on Friday - No exceptions. If its not a 23 hour market (certain futures), then it closes all trades at EOM daily. - Utilizes hard stops upon trade entry, so no more than 5% DD on any one trade. - Aims for 2% gain **per month** and tightens up entry rules once it attains that (e.g., reaches goal during 1st week, so utilizes tighter entry criteria the rest of that month to increase winner probability). - Does not **guess** when opening trades. I manually trade some systems because their entries are terrible; they’re right about eventual market direction, but their entry is too early and causes needless drawdown. - As far as leverage, it depends on the instrument (I only trade futures) and CME rules. Compute maximum shares based on leaving at least 30% cash reserve when opening or adding to a position. - It’s okay if the system adds to a winning trade or uses staggered entries, but it should not add to a losing trade in order to average out its entry price, unless doing so will not violate the 5% max DD rule. It should also not Martingale or even hint of it. Get out of bad trades; don’t increase position size against the trend.