# Why isn't my strategy on the new high list. Thanks

**URL:** <https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000>\
**Category:** C2\
**Created:** [November 4, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000 "2016-11-04T11:39:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![steve\_pool](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/steve_pool/32/22697_2.png) [@steve\_pool](https://forums.collective2.com/u/steve_pool)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/1 "2016-11-04T11:39:15Z")

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Why isn’t my model on the new high list. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![smallDogInvestor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/smalldoginvestor/32/1487_2.png) [@smallDogInvestor](https://forums.collective2.com/u/smallDogInvestor)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/2 "2016-11-04T19:18:14Z")

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I have noticed this too. The theory I have is that ‘new high’ in collective2 means _realized_ new high. This favors dayTrade strategies over swingTrades on the splash page and is not fair. I have considered the tactic of simply closing/reopening a trade to game the new highs list but have resisted doing so out of respect for subscribers.

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**Author:** ![smallDogInvestor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/smalldoginvestor/32/1487_2.png) [@smallDogInvestor](https://forums.collective2.com/u/smallDogInvestor)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/3 "2016-11-04T23:29:03Z")

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Ok tried it … success.

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**Author:** ![C\_J\_](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/c_j_/32/4273_2.png) [@C\_J\_](https://forums.collective2.com/u/C_J_)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/4 "2016-11-20T03:31:01Z")

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that does seem like an odd way to differentiate, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![MatthewKlein](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/matthewklein/32/21382_2.png) [@MatthewKlein](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatthewKlein)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/5 "2016-11-20T04:20:09Z")

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Whether a trade is open or closed is immaterial. C2 uses total marked to market account value, including both open and closed trades.

“New Highs” are selected from a list of strategies making new highs. There’s no guarantee that a particular strategy will appear, even if it happens to have made a new high. There’s other sorting and selection criteria at work, which try to keep the list balanced and useful to traders searching for strategies.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_M](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/steve_m/32/238_2.png) [@Steve\_M](https://forums.collective2.com/u/Steve_M)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/6 "2016-12-06T22:23:32Z")

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I’m not sure that is entirely fair. If a strategy has made a new high, then, in my opinion, it should be on the “made new highs” list. Exactly what is the “other sorting and selection criteria”??

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**Author:** ![steve\_pool](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/steve_pool/32/22697_2.png) [@steve\_pool](https://forums.collective2.com/u/steve_pool)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/7 "2016-12-07T12:38:20Z")

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I agree. Seem to me if we pay our system should on the list as well.

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**Author:** ![TrendsurfTrader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@TrendsurfTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/TrendsurfTrader)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/8 "2016-12-07T19:39:50Z")

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My system is up 14% since created. When I search the leader board sorting by Cumil. Return my strategy does not show up at all, yet other strategies with lower and negative gains show up. It would seem that their is either a bug in the sites code or you have to pay up and get your strategy “Featured” before it shows up on any list. If this is the case then this needs to be clarified before strategy authors pay our listing fees.

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**Author:** ![MatthewKlein](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/matthewklein/32/21382_2.png) [@MatthewKlein](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatthewKlein)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/9 "2016-12-07T19:45:51Z")

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The [Leader Board](https://collective2.com/leader-board) uses filters to display only a subset of available strategies.

In contrast, [The Grid](http://collective2.com/grid) is the universal sort/filter list. You can sort by any metric and see almost any active strategy.

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**Author:** ![TrendsurfTrader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@TrendsurfTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/TrendsurfTrader)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/10 "2016-12-07T19:51:02Z")

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What filters are in play? Strategy owners should be made aware of algorithm(s) involved so we can do what is necessary to get our strategies listed.

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**Author:** ![MatthewKlein](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/matthewklein/32/21382_2.png) [@MatthewKlein](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatthewKlein)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/11 "2016-12-07T20:03:40Z")

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I don’t go into detail about the Leader Board selection algorithm. It leads to unproductive, endless exchanges about why one strategy ought to be included, and not another, etc.

But I definitely understand that you, as a strategy developer here on C2, want to know what it takes to be included.

So, in that spirit, here are some of the things the software looks at:

popularity  
longevity  
sharpe  
index outperformance  
drawdown (both global equity and intra-trade)

In addition, there is an attempt to balance diversity of instrument class and trading style represented on the list. Finally, the algorithm is adjusted occasionally as we learn more and as the data changes.

A quick glance at your strategy tells me that the main knock against it is the longevity. It’s only a bit over two months old. Just keep at it, and keep building a track record, and all will be well.

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**Author:** ![TrendsurfTrader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@TrendsurfTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/TrendsurfTrader)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/12 "2016-12-07T21:32:53Z")

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That is helpful. Thanks for the info.

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**Author:** ![TrendsurfTrader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@TrendsurfTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/TrendsurfTrader)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/why-isnt-my-strategy-on-the-new-high-list-thanks/9000/13 "2016-12-08T17:13:52Z")

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Could you also explain how “popularity” is calculated?
