# Winiom weekly update **URL:** \ **Category:** Trading and Markets\ **Created:** [May 7, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600 "2022-05-07T20:37:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GSPTrader](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/gsptrader/32/23524_2.png) [@GSPTrader](https://forums.collective2.com/u/GSPTrader)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600/24 "2022-05-14T18:56:33Z")
> [@WINIOMASSOCIATES](#): > > Read somewhere that Jesse Livermore was a highly successful trader. Whom lost his fortunes multiple times. Jesse Livermore died broke. ---
**Author:** ![WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/winiomassociates/32/17633_2.png) [@WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://forums.collective2.com/u/WINIOMASSOCIATES)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600/25 "2022-05-15T14:33:15Z")
Making a fortune is one thing. Keeping the fortune is another. The general consensus seems to be that Livermore was one of the top traders of all time. I’m not necessarily saying I agree. Trading is a journey. One not only consisting of highs. There will be lows as well. ---
**Author:** ![WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/winiomassociates/32/17633_2.png) [@WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://forums.collective2.com/u/WINIOMASSOCIATES)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600/27 "2022-05-15T14:52:14Z")
I’m not an investor here. But a glance at the grid has the guy at number one, with what appears to be as many subscribers as most strategies by far, showing a 46% drawdown. Another strategy in the top ten Stella…68% drawdown, with more subscribers than most. So you tell me what they want. You’re an investor right? Creating a strategy with a 5/10% drawdown and 10/20% monthly return isn’t a difficult feat. It just doesn’t appear they draw much attention here. ---
**Author:** ![WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/winiomassociates/32/17633_2.png) [@WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://forums.collective2.com/u/WINIOMASSOCIATES)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600/28 "2022-05-15T14:53:30Z")
You’ll probably know many more of those guys… But I won’t be one. ---
**Author:** ![WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/winiomassociates/32/17633_2.png) [@WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://forums.collective2.com/u/WINIOMASSOCIATES)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600/29 "2022-05-15T14:58:28Z")
Buffet is worth billions. Over the last 30 years I’m certain he’s made more than anyone just invested in the S&P. If Buffet hasn’t beat the markets who has? Elaborate on beating the market please… ---
**Author:** ![WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/winiomassociates/32/17633_2.png) [@WINIOMASSOCIATES](https://forums.collective2.com/u/WINIOMASSOCIATES)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600/30 "2022-05-15T15:02:14Z")
So when will the guaranteed blowup occur please sir? I would like a heads-up. ---
**Author:** ![MatthewKlein](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/matthewklein/32/21382_2.png) [@MatthewKlein](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatthewKlein)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600/31 "2022-05-15T16:01:50Z")
Shhhh. Just run your strategy. Less talk. ---
**Author:** ![MatthewKlein](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forums.collective2.com/matthewklein/32/21382_2.png) [@MatthewKlein](https://forums.collective2.com/u/MatthewKlein)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.collective2.com/t/winiom-weekly-update/15600/32 "2022-05-15T16:01:54Z")
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