Discussing the automated, data-driven approach used in TRADE FUTURES NOW trading strategy

Your strategy is less then 2 months old, these are pretty random numbers now.

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Thank you! But I also have a strategy and like you seeing ways to expand. From what I heard so far, Micro’s are better then Mini’s in terms of subscribers. That is why I asked.

$500 a month may indicate why you have no subscribers to date. It never ceases to amaze me how systems that are three months old or less charge exorbitant subscriptions. Even with three years of history, this would be steep with that 25% DD.

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@Peter , your observation regarding the lack of subscribers is noted. In this arena, value is paramount. If the market here isn’t compensating appropriately, then its offerings are, shall we say, insufficient. I have no interest in the small game that appears to be the standard.

As for your strategy, I trust it unfolds with the precision it deserves. My recent experience on C2 was… unfortunate. A single day’s execution, which yielded a substantial profit, was inexplicably marred by a system malfunction. Orders were fragmented, stop-losses triggered prematurely amidst a sharp decline. A regrettable display of inefficiency.

BTW DD or Draw down you expose registered in C2 says 10k, while tradovate , the REAL broker just exposes 2500 DD:


C2 is completely wrong and unfortunately, very difficult to represent reality.

If you want the csv to compare let me know

C2 shows in trade drawdown considering total size of the position open, and Tradovate shows just a bunch of PLs for positions in single contract. C2 represents reality much better in this case.

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My friend, the reality reflected in those cold numbers, the ones you see when you log into C2, is…distinct from the narrative, wouldn’t you agree? Nevertheless, your keen observation regarding that particular day serves its purpose. It allows a complete accounting, wouldn’t you say? And yes, on that day, my account registered a profit of $27,000. A curious discrepancy with the $800 reflected here, wouldn’t you concur? @JITF

Agree with what?

Sure.

Since i don’t have access to your personal account and can’t check what was traded and if that trading activity is aligned with C2 trading, it is hard to concur or disagree. Based on the C2 data you earned 800 with almost 10k drawdown. :slight_smile:

His Trade Futures Now system made 127% in less than 3 months so far, with a 22.5% drawdown according to his C2 stats.

Here’s a backtest of Old Goat’s new fully automated strategy trading Micro E-Mini’s. Trades are generated by a Tradingview script and are transmitted via webhooks to Traderspost.io, which formats and re-routes them to Tradestation for execution. Delay from Tradingview alert to Tradestation execution is typically 1-3 seconds. Tradingview script is robust across multiple timeframes ranging from 1 second to 5 minutes, though results are most promising using 15-second to 30-second candles (I use 30 seconds).



Here’s what it did for me today:

@Old_Goat

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LOL!! Today doesnt count. If there was any day that exposes trading as a CASINO today was it. :zany_face:

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True! “Results not typical”, as they say. But the script works, the backtest validates it, and…it’s making me money hand over fist. Here’s the overnight action, where it sidesteped the bull trap and went short in the wee hours. :goat: is up another $2k so far. :dollar_banknote: :dollar_banknote:

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“Results not typical” indeed!, at least not in comparison with other strategies. Here’s an update on my short position. I changed over from trading micros to full e-minis to get better fills with lower commissions. Same trade, just sold the 6 MES and MNQ and bought 1 ES and NQ at same time, and modified TV settings to reflect change. To allay any concerns that I might be showing simulated results, see the green “Live” at top right.


Note: Positions shown are still open at time of writiing.

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@Old_Goat great insights!

I use Proteryx.com their executions over tradovate are ~60 milli seconds… This by far the fastest router for TV automations

Strategy now almost 100 days, I’m now more familiar with the automation process in the backend for my strategy. Confident on how to better perform.

The following remarks are only for me to remember and also if someone wants to replicate it:

  1. if you close a position via platform transmit directly over NinjaTrader, this action can take up to 20 seconds to execute in C2. Whereas if you close position via API, this is executed instantly.
  2. pre-margin check blocks 2 NQ contracts for a 50K account but allows more contracts if sent independently.
  3. Do not send bracket orders if you are using martingale, because a) no more contracts will be added but your TP and SL bracket will post internally. b) This will cause a reduction on your position with every hit in the bracket orders. Reflecting a poorer performance. My recommendation would be once you enter a trade, do not move it until your limits are closed.
  4. Watch out with order throttle, this can trigger if you send via API a set of orders.


There’s no strategy at C2 that hasn’t crashed with such high leverage.
Why should it be any different here?

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This is automated, no feelings or revenge trades.
Try it on my friend, you will love it!

I don’t know of many potential C2 subscribers who would be able/willing to make trades of 14 NQ. If you published an identical version of this system that simply trades MNQ instead of NQ then you would likely get some interest. From there the subscribers could scale up if they wanted more leverage. With your current system, scaling down is not an option since you trade in increments of 1 NQ.

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As always @GaryLynn2 I really appreciate your insights! I will change to MNQ once I reach a couple of goals I have in mind. For now, my strategy is not pressing on live accounts and it is just gathering substantial statistics. I see the potential you mentioned. The high cost is also in place to avoid subs. So once I see fit, I will drop the entry barrier.

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Some rockin numbers.

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