Systems approaching zero capital

[PedroPannon]

@JITF

Check out IB commission plan with auto trading fees, you will see that this system is still +114% with dd around 71%.

That is a good point, but anybody who subscribed 3 weeks ago and using same scale and the Autotrader is still wiped out. So this brings up an interesting dilemma for Matt, when is a system considered to be dead? At the subscribers being wiped out, at the vendor being wiped out or when the system lost -120%?

[JITF]

[quote=“PedroPannon, post:21, topic:10664”]
but anybody who subscribed 3 weeks ago and using same scale and the Autotrader is still wiped out. [/quote]
It is not always correct. From three weeks ago, May 19, to today system lost ~52k (using IB commissions chart). Subscriber with the capital of 100k started on May 19 using the same scaling and autotrader lost same 52k and have 48k now. It is 52% dd, but not total loss.

@PedroPannon

So this brings up an interesting dilemma for Matt, when is a system considered to be dead?

There is no systems here at C2 as we understand it. Trade leaders provide stream of trades. But subscriber decides what initial capital to use and what volatility (using scaling) of his equity is appropriate. Subscriber has the system which can die. Matt doesn’t know anything about subscriber’s capital and scaling, for him it is impossible to decide if system died or not.

@PedroPannon

At the subscribers being wiped out, at the vendor being wiped out or when the system lost -120%?

Again for IB commissions this system is still +100% over 2-3 months since inception.

[JITF]

@GalBarak

So, what’s so typical about the typical brokers commissions that make such a difference?

Good question to Matt.