Delta FX (Forex) = Delta CME (Futures)

[TheForexSniper]

@DogZebra_Investing

C2 makes money off all of it

Again, C2 is only a platform that broadcasts live trading signals, what the potential investors/subscribers decide to do with their money (after seeing the trade leader trading system) is their own affair.

[Delta]

Hello,

Thanks for being active and subscribing to my system.

1. Delta FX (Forex) | + 10.7%, max dd - 3.7% | Delta FX

AUM Subscribers C2 on my systems = 331,015 USD*

Sims + Subscribers = 21*

2. Manual trading is based on the use of advanced mathematical algorithms that generate accurate entry and exit signals, as well as on the analysis of intraday currency futures of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME Group).

3. Each trade is protected by stop loss. Prior to the opening of each trade, a risk calculation is made and only after that a trade is opened. Risk control takes first place in the system.

4. Not a martingale.

5. I recommend that subscribers in the settings set the parameters of the maximum entry no more than 5 lots (5*10,000 USD at 100% scaling) and the risk per month no more than 10%. Be sure to do this.

Michael
September 10, 2021*

[Delta]

The answer to the distinguished people of the forum. Comedy is when a trade leader opens new profiles and hides previous ones !!! Everything from scratch. And there are still many of them. And if the leader of the trade (I) speaks about his failures in public and does not hide it, this is no longer a comedy. Peace to you and your loved ones.

Michael
September 10, 2021

[DogZebra_Investing]

@Delta

And if the leader of the trade (I) speaks about his failures in public and does not hide it

Hiding it…as in… making your old strategy private and creating new profiles so new C2 customers won’t see your old ones?

This. This is comedy.

PFSignal com I CME FX

[Delta]

Hello DogZebra_Investing,

1. Thanks for your activity in my thread. Criticism is good too, but to the point and with full analysis, not the snippet you provided.

2. I wrote about all my systems here in my post back on September 20, 2020. There is a complete list.

3. I have never hidden my past failures from anyone. This is my 3rd profile here. I have already written about this many times.

4. In the coming days, I will post detailed analytics for all systems and all profiles.

5. I am always honest with my subscribers, I appreciate and respect them.

Have a nice day!

Michael

[Delta]

Hello,

Thanks for being active and subscribing to my system.

AUM Subscribers C2 on my systems = 351,015 USD*

Sims + Subscribers = 25*

1. Delta FX (Forex) | + 10.7%, max dd - 3.7%

Delta FX

I recommend that subscribers in the settings set the parameters of the maximum entry no more than 5 lots (5 * 10,000 USD at 100% scaling) and the risk per month no more than 10%. Be sure to do this. Maximum open volume = 5 lots (5 * 10,000 USD), trading account size from 10,000 USD to 12,000 USD. Maximum open volume = 6 lots (6 * 10,000 USD), trading account size from 12,000 USD to 14,000 USD.

2. Delta CME (Futures) | + 1.2%, max dd - 0.7%

Delta CME

British Pound Futures, Euro FX Futures, Australian Dollar Futures, Japanese Yen Futures, Canadian Dollar Futures, Swiss Franc Futures. This system “Delta CME” (Futures) is identical to the system “Delta FX” (Forex). Difference in markets. One system for forex, another system for currency futures CME. Equal risks, entry points, exit points.

Michael
September 14, 2021*

[PipMaster2018]

@DogZebra_Investing

@PipMaster2018

Hi,

What is your opinion?
Thanks,
Best Regards,

Don’t think it matters. Michael pays fees which keeps C2 alive. Subscribers pay C2 fees to follow his systems with their great “risk management” .

C2 makes money off all of it, and so “the show goes on” until he crashes again. Rinse, repeat.

This is just comedy now.

Thank you very much for your in-depth analysis!

This looks like C2’s own comedy, both Michael and the investors lost on the Martingale EA.

Although @MatthewKlein would love to work with Ameritrade, I 100% agree with the rejection from Ameritrade.

Honest is the most important issue in the industry!

[JITF]

I would recommend to remove this phrase

@Delta

Risk control takes first place in the system.

After several failures due to increased risks taken, this sounds like a mockery now. Risk control is solely a burden of the subs now. In the future excuses @MAP can always say - I warned.

@Delta

And if the leader of the trade (I) speaks about his failures in public and does not hide it, this is no longer a comedy.

I agree, this is no longer a comedy. Considering that old strategies are private and inaccessible, this is some kind of hipocricy.

[JITF]

@PipMaster2018

This looks like C2’s own comedy, both Michael and the investors lost on the Martingale EA.

C2 just provides the service for signal sellers and signal buyers. I don’t think they have a lot of abilities to refuse service to trade leaders unless the trade leader is evidently abusing the system. Otherwise can be treated as a discrimination.

So this is subs choice - you play this game or not.

@PipMaster2018

Although @MatthewKlein would love to work with Ameritrade, I 100% agree with the rejection from Ameritrade.

Honestly i doubt in the high moral skills of the finance industry participants. For Ameritrade it just can be a lot of hassle to set up the infrastructure. Or maybe they are already promoting their own/partners social trading platforms.

[Delta]

Hello,

As always, no specifics and analytics. Bravo!

Thanks for being active and subscribing to my system.

AUM Subscribers C2 on my systems = 355,015 USD*

Sims + Subscribers = 31*

1. Delta FX (Forex) | + 12.5%, max dd - 3.7%

Delta FX

I recommend that subscribers in the settings set the parameters of the maximum entry no more than 5 lots (5 * 10,000 USD at 100% scaling) and the risk per month no more than 10%. Be sure to do this. Maximum open volume = 5 lots (5 * 10,000 USD), trading account size from 10,000 USD to 12,000 USD. Maximum open volume = 6 lots (6 * 10,000 USD), trading account size from 12,000 USD to 14,000 USD.

2. Delta CME (Futures) | + 3.6%, max dd - 0.7%

Delta CME

British Pound Futures, Euro FX Futures, Australian Dollar Futures, Japanese Yen Futures, Canadian Dollar Futures, Swiss Franc Futures. This system “Delta CME” (Futures) is identical to the system “Delta FX” (Forex). Difference in markets. One system for forex, another system for currency futures CME. Equal risks, entry points, exit points.

Michael
September 14, 2021*

[DogZebra_Investing]

@JITF

I agree, this is no longer a comedy. Considering that old strategies are private and inaccessible, this is some kind of hipocricy.

Spot on.

Why make a new profile?

[PipMaster2018]

@JITF

@PipMaster2018

Although @MatthewKlein would love to work with Ameritrade, I 100% agree with the rejection from Ameritrade.

Honestly i doubt in the high moral skills of the finance industry participants. For Ameritrade it just can be a lot of hassle to set up the infrastructure. Or maybe they are already promoting their own/partners social trading platforms.

Hi Mark,

Don’t lose confidence.
C2 is just a small company and cannot represent all of the industry.

I know Founder and CEO of two retail Brokers regulated by FCA and CySEC respectively.
Both of them are very honest person.

In addition, Looks like you know the business of C2 very well.
If you are an employee, please disclose your identity.

No problem, just a discussion.
Honest and transparent is welcome.

Thanks,

[PipMaster2018]

@JITF

@PipMaster2018

This looks like C2’s own comedy, both Michael and the investors lost on the Martingale EA.

C2 just provides the service for signal sellers and signal buyers. I don’t think they have a lot of abilities to refuse service to trade leaders unless the trade leader is evidently abusing the system. Otherwise can be treated as a discrimination.

So this is subs choice - you play this game or not.

Hi Mark,

1. According to your logic, C2 only list all strategies and let the investors to choose themselves?

   Please note that most investors are part-time traders, they have no enough time to learn trading.

   If they can identify the strategy very well, why do they choose C2 to copy trade?

   I used to set up PAMM Account in FCA, FINMA and CySEC regulated Brokers, the review is very strict, which could make sure the strategy could do some help to the investors and/or at least no risky logic involved.

   Although C2 is not regulated as Broker, I think the review should be more responsible.

2. In addition, I believe all the traders who left comments in this thread, only want to help investors to stay away from high risk strategies.

3. Regarding your sub choice-- you play the game or not, I could clearly tell you: Never.

Thanks,

[JITF]

@PipMaster2018

Don’t lose confidence.
C2 is just a small company and cannot represent all of the industry.

It is not about C2, it is about the industry. IMO C2 is quite honest with their customers.

@PipMaster2018

In addition, Looks like you know the business of C2 very well.
If you are an employee, please disclose your identity.

I am humble subscriber with some trading and industry experience. Not sure what hidden knowledge I revealed to be considered an employee.

[JITF]

@PipMaster2018

According to your logic, C2 only list all strategies and let the investors to choose themselves?

This is not my logic, this is what C2 is doing in reality.

@PipMaster2018

If they can identify the strategy very well, why do they choose C2 to copy trade?

Not everybody can identify the strategy very well, not everybody is able to develop trading strategy, some subs are looking for entry signals or to diversify their own trading. There can be a lot of reasons.

@PipMaster2018

Although C2 is not regulated as Broker, I think the review should be more responsible.

Agree, review of the trading system by subscriber should be very deep and responsible. C2 provides all tools required for this. But it will not do it for you.

[PipMaster2018]

@JITF

@PipMaster2018

According to your logic, C2 only list all strategies and let the investors to choose themselves?

This is not my logic, this is what C2 is doing in reality.

Thanks for your clarification, humble subscriber.

If so, potential trap is everywhere in C2?

Investors need to learn how to use “All tools” in C2 to find a reliable strategy?

If so, I can not agree with you.
Because you say "C2 is quite honest with their customers”.

[Delta]

Hello,

This system “Delta CME” (Futures) is identical to the my system “Delta FX” (Forex)

Delta FX

I recommend that subscribers in the settings set the parameters of the maximum entry and the risk per month no more than 10%. Be sure to do this. Maximum open volume, trading account size from 120,000 USD to 140,000 USD:

British Pound Futures = 10 lots (10 * 62,500 USD)
Euro FX Futures = 5 lots (5 * 125,000 USD)
Australian Dollar Futures = 6 lots (6 * 100,000 USD)
Japanese Yen Futures = 5 lots (5 * 125,000 USD)
Canadian Dollar Futures = 6 lots (6 * 100,000 USD)
Swiss Franc Futures = 5 lots (5 * 125,000 USD)

Delta CME

September 16, 2021
Michael

[JITF]

@PipMaster2018

If so, potential trap is everywhere in C2?

trap? what do you mean? risks are disclosed, they put even this statement:

All results are hypothetical. Trading is risky, and you can lose money. Past results are not indicative of future results. And sure, these pictures look pretty great, but remember we’re showing you only the best strategies. There were others that frankly stunk up the place. Collective2 is not appropriate for everyone. If you can’t afford to lose money, C2 probably isn’t right for you. Please see important warnings and disclosures at bottom of page.

or this:

Most investment firms tout “safety” and downplay risk.
We do the opposite. The entire point of Collective2 is risk.
Not “let’s-go-crazy” risk. Not “throw-caution-to-the-wind” risk.

probably people just don’t read such boring stuff and than see the traps.

@PipMaster2018

Investors need to learn how to use “All tools” in C2 to find a reliable strategy?

sure. or just try your luck with the coin. this is common rule in the modern world - if you want to achieve more, then you need to learn more.

@PipMaster2018

If so, I can not agree with you.
Because you say "C2 is quite honest with their customers”.

Could you elaborate why do you think that C2 is not honest?

[Delta]

Hello,

Thank you for subscribing to my systems, interest in them and activity in my forum thread.

1. Delta FX (Forex) | + 9.9%, max dd - 3.7%

Delta FX

I recommend that subscribers in the settings set the parameters of the maximum entry no more than 5 lots (5 * 10,000 USD at 100% scaling) and the risk per month no more than 10%. Be sure to do this. Maximum open volume = 5 lots (5 * 10,000 USD), trading account size from 10,000 USD to 12,000 USD. Maximum open volume = 6 lots (6 * 10,000 USD), trading account size from 12,000 USD to 14,000 USD.

2. Delta CME (Futures) | + 1.7%, max dd - 4.2%

Delta CME

I recommend that subscribers in the settings set the parameters of the maximum entry and the risk per month no more than 10%. Be sure to do this. Maximum open volume, trading account size from 120,000 USD to 140,000 USD:

British Pound Futures = 10 lots (10 * 62,500 USD)
Euro FX Futures = 5 lots (5 * 125,000 USD)
Australian Dollar Futures = 6 lots (6 * 100,000 USD)
Japanese Yen Futures = 5 lots (5 * 125,000 USD)
Canadian Dollar Futures = 6 lots (6 * 100,000 USD)
Swiss Franc Futures = 5 lots (5 * 125,000 USD)

September 17, 2021
Michael

[PipMaster2018]

@JITF

Could you elaborate why do you think that C2 is not honest?

Why do you think so?
You advocate, You should gives evidence.