How many subscribers do the best systems get?

The drawdowns were never that bad b/c I use tight stops and have carried arond an 80% acuracy rate in picking winners for many years now.

Sure. I trust you. If you don’t mind may I watch your trading? Somehow you opened a system at C2 and I’m always interested in succesful stocks systems. :wink:

Those are the most recent picks (ie within the last couple of weeks).

So, most recent picks don’t correlate with your experience? lol

Feel free to sign up for a free trial if you want to watch what we do more closely.

Sure. I think you don’t recognize what is C2’s blood bath lol



Eu



P.S. I’ll watch and I’ll say first if I was wrong in my assumptions.

"When the war broke out, I enlisted in the US Army and am currently still serving. "



Michael - my hats off to you. You seem to be on the level and have my utmost respect with being in the service and all. I’m sure you will be very successful here.



Steve

Michael,



If you are going to make 100%+ why are you useing so much margin?



Tomm

Thanks for your reply. Our best system closes every night in order to employ liquidity as alternative to other instruments.



Other systems are sectorial and the performance is connected to the sector.



Moreover quantities, hours and other elements are pre-determined to to the things easy for the trader.

(1) If you can do 100% per month then you should be a millionaire in short order. Since you are trading FX, the usual excuses about scalability/liquidity issues should not be a problem for you until you are well into the millions. Given that, why are you bothering with C2?



(2) Your ebay auction violates ebay’s policies.



I especially enjoyed these two contradictory statements in your ebay listing:



"I promise it will still work at least 3-4 months and you will earn at least a 300% return. Guaranteed. "



"No representation is being made that any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those discussed on this letter. "



Tomm,

I do it so that I can make even more money. Since I use small stops, I am not that worried about hurting myself. I actually think margin is a great tool is utilized correctly. Correctly being the key word.

Besides, if you are so adept at playing multiple systems and filtering good signals from bad then why do you trade other people’s systems to begin with? It seems to me you should be smart enough to come up with your own killer system. Or don’t I understand what you are doing?



You’re correct… you don’t understand what I’m doing, or the complexity and time involved. If you did, you’d understand why I made certain trade-offs so as to reap benefits immediately while still continuing on other parts of the system. For now, portions of it live with borrowed parts until I finish growing them myself. Meanwhile, it addresses my priority, which is investement profits tempered with risk controls.

(2) Your ebay auction violates ebay’s policies.



I especially enjoyed these two contradictory statements in your ebay listing:



"I promise it will still work at least 3-4 months and you will earn at least a 300% return. Guaranteed. "



"No representation is being made that any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those discussed on this letter. "



You noticed those, also :slight_smile:

If I buy two of his systems, will I make twice as much?

At least 600% Guaranteed!

Reminds me of the door to door vacuum cleaner salesman. He always said "it will cut your work in half" to every client.



One customer said, "then I will take two"

You’re not related to Andy Crowder, are you? The reason I ask is because I’ve seen one of Andy’s very hyped systems take a dump during latter part of last year, leading to him abandoning the system and coming up with a new one to take its [marketing] place. Funny how he doesn’t incorporate those losses into the possibility of his new system being just as bad for subscribers in the long run.

Now, what exactly happened to:



1) being stunned by his system? (Looks like it disappeared?)



2) < 100% a month is sh*t? (I would signup at that rate!)



3) attracting more & more people here by ebay? (his systems do not appear to be selling even on EBay…)



4) “If you’re going to complain about the lack of subscribers but not do anything about it yourself, then you’re retarded and I wouldn’t trust you with my money in the first place” Does that mean the poster is then retarded???



sigh There seems to be a never-ending supply of would-be Pied Pipers who are going to show C2 netizens a thing or two about trading. It is almost worth going through, and keeping a list of the “best ever”… Flying Pink Pig and 2-3 points a day might make the list.

Now, what exactly happened to:



1) being stunned by his system? (Looks like it disappeared?)



2) < 100% a month is sh*t? (I would signup at that rate!)



3) attracting more & more people here by ebay? (his systems do not appear to be selling even on EBay…)



4) “If you’re going to complain about the lack of subscribers but not do anything about it yourself, then you’re retarded and I wouldn’t trust you with my money in the first place” Does that mean the poster is then retarded???



sigh There seems to be a never-ending supply of would-be Pied Pipers who are going to show C2 netizens a thing or two about trading. It is almost worth going through, and keeping a list of the “best ever”… Flying Pink Pig and 2-3 points a day might make the list.

Hi Ross,



Being a Forex trader and willing to market soon an FX system, I 've seen your post which seems very interesting regarding attractiveness matters and commercial issues.



I do believe that all systems should be marketed with a common statistic, regardless of the leverage used: unleveraged performance.

It should bring to both vendors and subscribers a simple yet efficient tool to discriminate sound systems.



And yes, a maximum leverage should be imposed by C2 to vendors to bring more credibility to systems performance.



All the best,