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My system vanishes occasionally off the leading strategies also. It seems related to the C2 Score as the C2 Score seems to be how leading strategies are ranked and listed. When the system vanishes I notice the C2 Score in my system has inexplicably dropped 20 or more points. Some hours later the C2 score will adjust back up and my system will be back. Somehow the process of generating the C2 score does not happen uniformly as it regenerates across all the systems on Collective2. But eventually it fixes itself, it just takes some time.
It would be better if whatever process is happening to generate the C2 scores stored “in process” scores out to a temporary location and only updated them to all the systems at once when they were completely ready.
I call BS on weighting by controlled risk. If the ranking looked at risk then a certain system with 100 heart attack ranking and several intraday drawdowns of OVER 100% (yes, that’s complete and total blowout of all capital) would not be constantly ranked so high. Frankly I don’t understand how such a system is allowed to continue posting trades as if it hadn’t gone bust multiple times, let alone be ranked so high.
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I have a strategy that has been live for 85 days with pretty good stats. Don’t think it’s ever been on the Leading Strategy page.
Stats for reference:
3 trades
100% profitable
61.7% return
5.965 Sharpe ratio
Max drawdown: 10%
C2 score: 78
Popularity: 966
Trades own system badge.
I suspect there’s not enough closed trades to make the list.
I like your strategy and statistic. I am waiting for a new position, so I can involve for the fresh ride.
I see the same thing for my two trading systems, ETF CAPITAL BUILDER and FUTURES TIMER.
They are usually both in the top 30 on the Leading Trading Strategies list, however, they sometimes completely drop off for a few hours and then come back on the list the next morning.
I find that it happens mostly after I close out a trade.
Jim
I’ve been convinced there are delays. Not just during the day, I think they update a few times a day. I also started checking for mine when it first hit 90 day new high a few days ago, seems like it was a couple of days before it appeared. And that day I wasn’t expecting it because I thought the system had given a little back.
anyway, it’s a nice feature. Have to admit I like seeing my system on the list.
Rob
Jay:
Your trading history includes all of 3 trades with your last trade 42 days ago.
Looking at that log, I will say you are definitely a Warren Buffet style strategic thinker. My trouble is figuring out what my entry point should be. If the price I pay is substantially different from what you paid for those XIV shares more than a month ago, I may have trouble closing the position with a profit, You have enough cushion with the accumulated profit; so you might tolerate a bumpy day like today. But as a new subscriber had I purchased yesterday and follow your sell direction, it is going to cost me pretty penny.
If you believe your strategy is still appropriate for a new subscriber, you need to make your holdings reflect a recent price. Perhaps trade once a week?
Regards
Francisco
Hi @Jay_Wolberg
Based on today’s decline in your performance graph [ (161667-147054)/93 ~=157 ], I am guessing that you have somewhere between 150 to 160 shares of XIV in your trading portfolio. Is that right?
It is so easy to guess your open positions, you might as well let people see what you are holding.
Cheers
This is a main flaw of C2 that I have previously reported. Problem for low frequency strategies is that can be followed by users without actually paying the fees. It should be interest of C2 give to the user the option to choose not only how long postpones their trades but also the updates of P&L and timing details when the last trade occurred. Some to prevent this issue, actually hide their strategy for period of time. It is obviously not an optimal solution.
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@FranciscoJimenez Swing trading is this system’s strength, and you are correct that entering mid-trade put you at a disadvantage. It’s ideal to buy when the buy signal is generated. Buy and sell signals are automated based on proprietary metrics so I can’t just close/re-open every week.
@FredDATTILIO It’s not a problem with me if you can guess our positioning. Whatever works.
Excellent idea! Glad to see I’m not the only one to see this.
Even If you trade only an inverse pair of ETF’s. A viewer can guess your positions by your P/L movements.
Fortunately for me, I trade NUGT/DUST. They are extremely volatile and I sometimes trade daily.
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I also see that the “LAST TRADED” notice above the chart can also give positions away. I have some countermeasures in mind that I’ll be testing and implementing this week.
Perhaps an option to show the equity chart and daily data stats, but no trade list. It would cut out a whole bunch of freeloaders that could drive good traders away. Good trading to all
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I think some of the trade list would be useful to subscribers… but a good compromise for those of us who trrade at lower frequency, would be to not show any trades from say the last couple of months, instead of the 168 hour threshold, or whatever it is.
Also I notice that we’ve gone off topic… and the original poster who started this deleted their post.
