9900 Options & Crazy Options 2016 – Review Results from 2 weeks

i don’t get your point

but i know the stat:

options 9900
Strategy began 1/13/2016
Age 64 days ago
What it trades Options

Trades 54

Profitable 49

% Profitable 90.70%
Max peak-to-valley drawdown 23.35%

Cumul. Return 214.6%
Avg win $5,375
Avg loss $3,810

Close PL $244,331
Closed PL (start day) $242,065
Closed PL Change $ $2,266
Closed PL Change % 0.94%
Equity $344,331

Equity Change $ $2,266
Equity Change % 0.66%

when you follow less then 100% you will get other result of course (!)
if you follow %100 you should get nore or less (±~5%) the same.

the model combine all results from all subscribers so if you get bad fill i will get it to (but its present combined fill of everybody).

please write you gains from 9900 options today (you can in private) - if you follow 1:1 you should get al least 2K gains.
if your result are far less then $2000 we should check this.

anyway fill problems of options are not special for my systems.
its real CHALLENGE to all developers

I knew you are going to say that. It was on 100%. I am just testing different scaling to see what happens. smaller account will have same problem.

Here is proof, it was on 100% … you can check every single trade :slight_smile:

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please send today results and we check - thanks

I believe in this strategy that’s the only reason I am still using it…

Slippage is going to happen, no matter which system it is.

I don’t think C2 captures properly, I am looking into it.

If this system won’t work, I won’t use it.

I have no problem with strategy, it’s great strategy. My take is, packaging same strategy into 3 systems, hurts subscriber’s because of quality of trades, conflict of prioritization, etc.

I sent you my email, we can discuss anything you would like to discuss in private. you post your winner in public, I am just trying to protect some small accounts. I can take the heat of 10G, some small account can’t or shouldn’t

anyway please put today your result of “9900 options” so we can check if its far from our 2.2K winners

thanks

crazy options 2016 start =10K
9900 options start =100K
so its for real different acount size and scaling
9900 is with 23% DD great result to 210% gains system.
and when i trade big people say why i risk so much and ask less.
when i trade small people say why i risk so little and ask more.

when i trade medium obody happy - so we need more then 1 system.
many people follow all 3.
i don’t think whey doing wrong - they have best risk managment and they get the best as we can see from comibined protfolio/

not many systems has 90% win rate
this is for me the most important factor to decide if somebody have any method.

Off course it’s your strategy, you can milk the investor as you would like :slight_smile:

I think having 3 systems with one strategy is just milking the investors. I could understand 2 systems; 1 for small account and 1 for big account with same quality of trades or even same trades just different trade size and different price point for small and big accounts.

I will use the 99000 Option system as long as I find it Risk/Reward is balance. I can use other strategies. I am sure there will be enough subscriber for you too.

Sometimes greed takes over even the very smart people and they make unreasonable choices.

Milk them as long you would like, sooner or later people will understand. I won’t post anything after this post about your strategies. I am not here to hurt your business.

I admire you turn something very difficult to do into successful strategy but now you are going bit too far. Enjoy as long as it last.

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For me respect is part of everything and when person call my system ‘milking’ he not respect or deserve to be part of them.

Many people ask for more systems
every body can be part of all my 3 systems with $300
Only.

But as for you - no more milking
You free to find other better systems

Thanks

When 9900 options cost $249 and all 3 systems is $300 it’s only for my costumer benefit - I really don’t need for extra $30 to operate 3 systems.

With as ~100 followers In all 3 systems people can follow each combination they won’t - and if somebody doesn’t understand the need for 3 systems he can ignore my and my systems.

At least 20-25% of followers follow 2-3 systems and they have better result. They smart to quit if systems are so bad - people are not stupid!

Thats the least important factor anyone can have 99% win rate its easy , as a rule of thumb the higher the win rate the riskier the system - but not always ofcourse -.

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That is really funny!

I don’t speak about robots but about trading human.
When I have 50% win rate it’s ok to bet with cube
When I have less that that the success -if there is such -is because of good trading management and not timing.

When somebody trade with amazing timing so most of his trade are winner he has method!

Of course if you have 80-90% win rate and bad money management you can have big losses vs winners per trade - but if the avarege winners and losses are mostly the same - the win rate is so important ! And to say it’s more risky it’s not true.

I wish to see any reference to your saying that someone with higher win rate is risky then someone with less suscess. No real value in this argument!

It’s mean that if next month my system will have more losses it’s less risky??

“It’s mean that if next month my system will have more losses it’s less risky??”

Yes ofcourse …

Tsvika

Here is trades for 2 strategies:

  1. +1 +1 +1 -15 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 = 90% win rate
  2. -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +15 -1 -1 -1 = 10% win rate

What is a better strategy?

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Will any of these systems still exist here in 3 years? Somehow I doubt it. But I’ve been wrong before.

Tsvika, if you sell this strategy based on Win rate. That’s person must be has no background in finance, statistic and just want to be rich. I personally look more data, for example: I will look the standard deviation , Sharpe ratio, sterling ration, DD, commission fee, margin and your track records. In other word, this is out of my limits. People should ask for him self, why many people has concern with your strategy. Remember I don’t take any sides either I support or against your strategy. Let people think what is going with your strategy and let them use their critical thinking.

Where should I clcik to see that graph? Please and Thanks

A man build a hotel, another one a software company, another one a great restaurant. They have all spent money before they even have a client. It already cost them millions in contrustcion cost, remodeling, marketing without knowing if tomorrow will bring clients, or enough clients, without knwoing if tomorrwo there will not be a better project, a better company, Hotel, restaurant or similar business that will wipe them out from the market. They took a risk and nothing is sure.
Everything is risky and 90% of physical business can be riskier than trading if you have the proper money management and the profer fund.
Great system, money management, risk control will make huge account.
In my opinion, I consider losing trades as paying bills. You would have to pay the rent, utilities, salaries, marketing, etc. Some are just higher than thers. same way as loosing. AS long as you bring more than loosing. As long as your account grow monthly and you do not have a bunch of consecutive loosing trades, hey, you should be happy since
CD is 1% a year
Stcok market 5 to10% a year.
Annuity indexe 8%

Trading is safe heaven to me. Money management is the key for Wugot to stay in business. So can be your account or any system.Do not eat the profits quick, play with them to protect your investment.

If you tend to see to much one single bad day and forget all the good ones, especially when the good days are far better and higher than the bad ones, something is wrong somewhere.

Lejeune Bauvil, for Wugot.

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Stat of 9900 options.
When avg winner are less then avg losses = bad risk management but when it’s 1:1 or better it’s best to focus on winner ratio. The 1,1,1,1,15… In nice and true indeed but have no connection to this system.

The only good argument against 9900 is that I lower the risk and the gains so we work hard to find the best path to save amazing winners and not to have bigger Avg losses compere to winners.

Today we made 1.5% gains $1,500 win not so much but we save the great DD in this systems.

9900 it’s my only system with 7 days trail and it’s going probably to continue like this till the 300% gains

Does it mean that your “Crazy options 2016” & “CraZy Options” have bad risk management?
You have avg winner : avg loser ratios equal to 1:1.48 and 1:1.18 for that systems.