Beta.collective2.com

C2
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We’re experimenting with a more modern site design. Please give it a try at:

https://beta.collective2.com

You can report any problems by clicking the “Send Feedback” link at the lower right of the new screens.

Matthew

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I just made a feedback … hope i am the first one .

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I suspect continuing to change the design of this web page is like moving a popular tv show to a different time and day. People generally resist change. Maybe you would be better off finding one good design and sticking to it.

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Fills are slower than before. A market order takes 5-7 seconds now…

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There is no relationship between the new page design on beta.collective2.com and any internal execution speeds.

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I am still using the old version. I got a 9 seconds market order fill a few minutes ago…

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Please report the specifics to the help desk (help@collective2.com) and someone will take a look. (i.e. system id#, exact signal, time, etc.)

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Sorry to be so “badboy” but this version its even worst than the actual version.

Each new update that you make you reduce the size of the MOST important part of the website that is the dashboard with the actual trades and losses/gains.

This is the main part for the REAL users of c2, and each new version is smaller, in the beta version its crazy to follow the trades in the dashboard. A menu its that a menu, and have to be a small part of the website no the main part of the website.

I dont understand why you change so many times the design of website, please read some books about improve user experience, because you are making the oppositive, see google, fb, or any other popular website, the biggest part of the screen is for the main content, not for menus or others things that users only use 10-20% of the time.

You are giving 70%(menu, trading circle, etc) of the size of screen for things that a user only use 10-20% this is a big mistake , and 30% only for the main content(trades) , with this you are making our life more complicated to follow what i paid (trades).
Please think about that.

And one issue, now i cant come back to the other version :confused: how can i recover it?

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  1. You can hide the left-side menus by clicking the “remove” dongle on the lower part of the menu. This effectively gives you as much (or more) screen space as the earlier version. Like this:

  1. Alternately, you can leave the new design completely by just removing the “beta” from the web URL in your browser.

  2. We are working on alternate versions of the Dashboard which allow full removal of everything except your Strategy Matrix. That is coming soon.

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Yes you can expand and minimize the menu in the beta version , but that made browsing the site a cumbersome experience .

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No, the new version is not working properly in its supposed functionality. I had an edit order thing stuck for ages, finally moved back from the Beta, and updated the order, worked as usual. Tried with a order cancellation on Beta - same result - was stuck for ages - again worked well in regular site. So def some thing was broken.
Pls do not fuss so much over the design - for system creators, it is not really too much of an issue and adds no value. If you have money to spend, then I would like to see more functionality being added like sorting pending orders by fill dates (in case of partial orders), or sorting pending orders alphabetically by ticker name etc. These things are much more important for order management and running a strategy.

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I like it. Seems to be easier to navigate.

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Order-entry screen: fixed!

I located the source of the problems with the web-based order-entry screen under the new site design. The basic problem was this: Whenever C2 needed to alert you about an issue with the order you were about to submit, C2 tried to pop up a dialog window into the center of your screen. Under the new site design, that popup was not visible. So it looked like everything was frozen. In fact, C2 was blithely waiting for you to respond to a dialog box that you couldn’t actually see.

This is now fixed. Sorry!

Regarding general comments along the lines of: “Why are you wasting time working on A and not B?” - let me say this:

First, let me say that I appreciate it whenever anyone takes the time to post an opinion here in the Forums about C2 – positive or negative. The fact that you make an effort to post what you think means that you care about the site. And of course I welcome all feedback, even when I don’t agree with it, or even when it is painful to read, because it teaches me what at least some C2 Members are thinking and feeling, and helps guide me as I move forward.

With all that said, I promise you that recent efforts to redesign the user experience at C2 are not just me screwing around and trying to make things pretty. C2 is an extremely complex site – some will say: too complex – with a tremendous amount of information and data available to users.

The question of how to organize this information, and how to present it to all classes of users (leaders and followers, newbies and power-users), and across all types of devices (table and desktop, vertical orientation and horizontal screen orientation), is very challenging.

Sometimes, things change. Nowadays, as more desktop users have bigger monitors, horizontal screen space on the desktop is at less of a premium than vertical space (not always the case in the past). On the other hand, mobile users need dynamic navigation that resizes with screen real-estate.

So while I hate to sound like I’m making excuses, please believe me when I say the goal of our recent design changes is to make the site more broadly usable to more users. This benefits all our members – both system leaders and system followers.

I am taking all your feedback into account and hope to make public some substantial improvements, addressing some complaints, shortly.

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Hi, ANevado:

I encourage you to look at the latest update of the beta site design, which addresses many of the complaints you have had.

Changes include:

    1. Your “Watch List” has been moved off of the Dashboard page, It now
      resides exclusively in your left-side navigation area.
    1. The Collective2 Feed has been entirely eliminated from the Dashboard.
    1. Trading Circle info is now optional on the Dashboard.

Because of all the newly-freed space on the Dashboard, there is much more room for the important stuff: your open positions, profit-and-loss, new trade signals, etc.

There will be another version of the beta site released shortly, with some much-needed improvements on the left-side collapsible navigation (a bigger clickable “collapse-me” button, and also the site will “remember” that you collapsed the navigation area). That update will be released in the next few days.

In the meantime, if the old version of the beta site design wasn’t your cup of tea, I encourage you to try the latest version, just released this afternoon. As always, it is a work in progress.

Matthew

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Good work …

What that mean ? You cant browse the site without the navigation area anyway , so lets say i am in the grid and i collapsed the navigation area , i still have to undo that to visit another page .

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In theory, you could use the “breadcrumbs” (the trail of links at the top of the page) to move back and forth among pages.

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Now i have to say that this is the best version of C2 that i´ve used, Congratulations!!
For me only one issue, in my laptop (mac 13’) , c2 have a width page too big and i cant see all in the screen (with the sidebar hidden).
Could you put a eye on it? Again congratulations!

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I have to agree, this is the best iteration of C2 so far - clean and functional. At first the sidebar was irritating but now I must keep it open since items I access frequently, such as my subscribed strategies and items on my watchlist as well as other items, are only a click away. Thanks C2 team!

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I agree its a good version - somewhat - however everything looks compressed on a small screen like a laptop so it needs tweaking , and secondly c2 should consider improving their site as a whole , yesterday i was testing some stuff - developer - and executing trades took 30-60 seconds around 9 am , it was so slow , i would love to see improvements in that area .

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I think you’re moving in the right direction with these changes - Greg