Futures + Stocks system

[TSH]

Hi , whats the downside of combining futures and stocks in a single system here at C2 ? IMO Diversification is key to consistent profitability . Will that drive away all potential subscribers ? Thanks for the feedback .

[TSH]

I found this old reply related to this topic - quoted below - . But as i understand currently many subscribers are trading futures or stocks through IB which will allow you to trade either futures or stocks in the same account - universal account - .

And re the autotrading fees , again if you auto trade through IB which is c2 preferred broker your monthly auto trading costs is $99 no matter how many systems you auto trade , what instruments you trade and how big are your trades .

So the only reason why big accounts wont trade a futures+stocks system is if they don’t wont to touch stocks at all , but i am pretty sure that there’s a good portion of C2 clients who follow futures systems and stocks systems in their account as part of portfolio trading , so i don’t see the problem why not to follow a system that trades both .

Thats important to me as i found myself to perform much better - as a developer - if i trade multi instruments as against if i stick to a single contract day in day out , which is not a feasible way to generate income on the long run .

@ChristinaS

Hi Hugo,As a general subscriber, I can confirm that you will probably have challenges finding subscribers who want to sign up for a system that trades “everything.” Most obviously, there are broker considerations… I think you’re very limited in the number of Gen3 brokers that let you cross over and trade all instruments in a single account. Look at the autotrade data on any system, and you will see a ton of different brokers in use - users don’t willingly want to just up and switch brokers. Also, how would all the various Gen3 autotrade fees be handled?My point being that it seems like it would be logistically challenging for a subscriber. From an available broker standpoint, and from a “system finder/hot systems” classification standpoint.And keep in mind that if subscribers simply don’t want to trade something, such as options, it’s very hard for them to try gauge performance omitting the unwanted instrument, which presents even more challenges to the subscriber. It might have to be an “all or nothing,” which goes back to the broker issue.So in general, I think subscribers associate a single system with a single instrument.Christina

[AndreyBlinkov]

I would trade futures and stocks together.

[AndreyBlinkov]

For example. Somebody trades 1 contract on 100k account and makes 1-2% monthly. And it is good. But big chunk of money is just sitting on the bench and doing nothing, cause you need say 10k as a margin. Why not to trade stocks on remaining 90k.

[RandBots]

Hello,

Some days ago I allowed C2 to publish one of my strategy - which is a combination of 7 models.

The strategy started on 2007 however it was traded in multiple accounts at different brokers. Since Sep '15 its under IB.

https://collective2.com/details/100289689

The are about 3 strategies for each instrument except bond futures (or ETFs) which I only used a long / short strategy

1. Equities and Futures
2. Bonds Futures
3. Options
4. Commodities
5. FX
6. ETFs
7. Volatility

Tell me you what you think