How to promote your strategy?

April was quite a roller coast! Save for Retirement achieved #58 during the month, with Save for Retirement LR reaching #92, but in the last days of the month I returned half of the month’s gains to the market :frowning: Save for Retirement was also in the Leader Board during most of the month, but has lost its place in it in the last 2 days.

Dashboard 20210430

Save for Retirement is #70 (C2 Score 910) - April 4,8%
Save for Retirement LR is #158 (C2 Score 796) - April 3,8%
S4R Value & Growth is #630 (C2 Score 186) - April 7,4%

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By far, subscribers seem to be coming from the Grid (most of them sort the results by Annual Return, an obvious choice), so good C2 systems will automatically receive more attention and traffic than the others.

So the best way to promote your systems is to make money for your fellow traders-investors, the rest will take care of itself.

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“Sell in May and go away” - They say it so often that sooner or later they will be right. It was not the first time, and I am sure it will not be the last that May is not a good month for my portfolio. I was also a bit too much invested so I wasn’t able to take full advantage of buying the dip in some companies. :frowning:

Dashboard 20210531

All my strategies ended May in Red :frowning: and dropped to the bottom of the grid
Save for Retirement is #509 (C2 Score 305)…May -7,6%
Save for Retirement LR is #158 (C2 Score 205)…May -5,8%
S4R Value & Growth is #582 (C2 Score 158)…May -6,0%

I have been here before and I am confident on recovering to the latest equity highs, but from a subscriber perspective I believe this must be scary. That’s why I think that everybody should simulate a strategy at least for a few months before subscribing to the real thing. Ideally they should go through a situation like this and stay for the recovery with paper money. This will give them confidence to not give up when it happens in real life.

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Dude… Just buy the index and call it a day.

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Yup.

Or spend less time on recaps and letters and more time on research.

Like I said, numbers and returns are all that matters. How many swan songs have we heard on this forum to see them crash and burn almost every time.

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Greg has an active strategy, but you don’t nor do you subscribe to anyone… Why are you here trolling?

I had strategies in the past. Wouldn’t work on C2.

Hoping that OP sees the light, spends less time advertising and more time getting returns higher. Better returns trump letters/explanations/etc every time.

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@greg_morris2
Are you going to buy the index and call it a day? Because I don’t think your results are so much better than mine. I will just compare what’s publicly available since my first complete month here in C2.

Save For Retirement vs MyLivePortfolio

@DogZebra_Investing
I said it more than once - if you have something useful to say or a pertinent question to ask you are welcome in this thread. If not, please just ignore the thread and go share your wisdom somewhere else.

Your genius contribution to this thread was: Get good returns and you will get more subscribers. That’s a really useful piece of advice. No trade leader in C2 has ever thought about that. :rofl:

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I’ve seen alot of folks come on here and write long-winded letters and explanations to subscribers, etc. All of them flame out fairly quickly.

The most successful developers I’ve seen don’t come on the forums. They focus on their systems. Numbers speak louder than advertising. Remember that. :wink:

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You haven’t seen anything , u just trolling .

Go check out the forum for the last 10 years. You’ll see some long winded threads with inevitably blown systems.

Now let’s leave this thread to @JoaquimFonseca and enjoy the ride.

Let’s make this more interesting! Let’s all put in our agendas a note to check this thread exactly in 1 year and see where my strategies went.

I believe that I will be for sure above SP500 return and with, at least, a 10% return! Do you want to place your bets? If I loose I will deposit 50K in an Interactive Brokers account and will setup “Save for Retirement” as TOS. If you lose you will post a photo of you holding a paper saying that you were wrong and that investors can trust in my strategies.

Are you up for the challenge?

19/06/2021
SP500 4,166.45
S4R Value and Growth 44350 USD
Save For Retirement 64240 USD
Save For Retirement LR 41079 USD

DISCLAIMER: This is not a promise of guaranteed returns. This is a bet! @MatthewKlein If this is not allowed please let me know and I will delete the post.

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Don’t worry @JoaquimFonseca I’ve got your strategies added to my watchlist and be happy to see how things develop. Trading is the purest form of meritocracy, so you will get all the praise and compliments when your strategies do well over time. :+1:

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Careful now, promising guaranteed returns is a real no-no on Collective2, and in the trading business in general.

In fact it’s the easiest way to get sued, if you don’t deliver.

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1 year does not a great money manager make. Plenty of strategies have dominated the S&P 500 on here for a year, or two, or three, and then colossally collapsed.

No one faults anyone for running a strategy and failing. Investing is hard.

But when managers come on here touting how amazing their strategy is, they put a bullseye on their backs. Always fun to watch. :popcorn:

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heh people love themselves some schadenfreude. you don’t even have to tout your actions and if they go badly somewhere someone will laugh … till it happens to them …

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Fully agreed with you.

Trading is an art.

It is just like playing the piano, anyone can make it pop up a sound, but mastery takes a lifetime.

Especially due to the low cost in C2, I think it’s extremely hard to attract any big professional traders.

Some small retai traders want to attract more clients, trading with high leverage; C2 also continuously needs “new big star” to show how easy to make money, it’s just common commercial needs, I 10000% understand them. Then we’ll see what you said… :astonished: :astonished: :astonished:

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how long do you think it takes for strong returns to generate meaningful interest (i.e. get 100 subs)?

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Depends how hot you start, I had near that after 4 months for about a minute. Most systems will cool off though.

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