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Hi @KarlA
That private message you mentioned you sent me was today after the market closed. I only saw it now because you mentioned it here on the forum. It wasn’t a message you sent days ago where I didn’t respond. If you sent it during market hours I would have seen it and responded. I can post that message with the time stamp if you’d like.
All I said was that I sent a private message previously, not days ago, but that is really irrelevant. The question is, do we get the coupons for zero subscription until the loss is recovered? I think this would be the fair solution. Thank you.
I would have with no problem. The way you worded your post made it sound like you sent me a PM and I’m unresponsive. From the outside if I was reading that I would have interpreted it that way when it was a PM sent after hours that I would have seen and responded to in the morning.
Malfunction won’t happen again. That drawing tool indicator is in the trash and no other indicators are going on. Ninja Trader is a great platform and I was pretty surprised. It was a drawing tool specifically on a footprint chart. My charts are fast so a drawing tool is going to continuously update and draw. If that drawing tool was on a daily chart I wouldn’t have had that issue. It’s only because it was on a fast footprint chart. Not a good combination.
You have been changed to $0.00.
The entire strategy has been changed to $0.00 for now. No indicator on charts and ready to go.
As you didn’t reply this comment I made (before this thread has been hijacked), I repeat it here.
Looks like I got the answer: you did change your setup.
Please don’t do that. The lesson I hope you learned is not that you shouldn’t use this specific graphic tool. Do not change anything without previously testing it (on a different machine.) No ‘easy to follow trade bookkeeping package’ no ‘automatic tax form generation add-on’, no ‘take a screenshot automatically every minute’ (you seem to like screenshots) Please!
I just hope his kids are eating. May need to give 120%. 
Yes I have been doing this for 10 years and no this has never happened before. I also didn’t change anything about my setup. Without a large enough sample size, how is it even possible to determine what my setup even is?
I thought Collective 2 was a great idea. In the short time I’ve been here, it seems apparent there’s a lot of child like activity. I tried to do the right thing. I made the strategy free and I made it free for the current customers. Even so, I’m still getting accused of changing setups and who knows what. I’m here to work not play games.
I’m sorry but this isn’t the right place for me. I thought the extra money would be a great supplement to my trading income. I’d rather not have that supplemental income if this is what I have to endure. One would assume a place where grown adults come to invest would behave in a more civilized manner. I have children and I instill in them core values and behavior like this goes against what I believe in. I treat people fairly the way I want to be treated.
To those that have treated me nicely in the short time I’ve been here, thank you. If the environment is hostile, I think the best thing for me to do is remove myself. I learned long ago that you surround yourself with people that are smart and can help you on your path. The rest should be removed from your life. I feel this is a toxic environment for me to be in, therefore I think it’s best for all if I leave.
What happened with the $6000 loss is unfortunate. It’s not a big deal I’ll make that back in a month or two max. What people seem to forget is I also lost that amount. I didn’t put myself on purpose in a situation to have a platform malfunction. But things like that happen. There’s nothing much you can do about it but move on. I get that people are unhappy about it and want free this and free that until the loss is made up. Even after announcing I’m OK with that, people still find a way to be hostile. That’s not the workplace I’m looking for.
I think the best thing for me to do is close up shop. Thank you for the opportunity.
Wow @MegaManTrading…is that fair that you charged a huge sub fee ($500) and then lost peoples money and now decide to close shop? Are you a scammer? If you aren’t you should at least try and stick around. I"m hoping you aren’t a scammer…
lol. Dude you already paid. Just run your strategy and don’t post on the forums. Tell people the strategy’s price is what it is. If they don’t want to invest, fine. They’ll all come back if you have a good track record.
I have a hard time believing you work the investment profession if a couple forum posts and PMs rattle you. People in my office get crap face to face ten times worse than this and brush it off every day.
If you are truly good, the money will find you very easily. It’s really pretty simple. No need for 2-3 page forum posts. Some of the most successful system developers on here don’t post at all. They just perform. At the end of the day, that’s all that matters. Keep your TOS, run your money, do well, and let C2 handle the rest.
At this point I’m saying 50/50 the wife/kids/trader story is made up and he’s just some kid trading for the first time and learned its not easy. Blames an “indicator” for a bad trade and desperately tries to hold onto subscribers. When that fails he complains and leaves.
Or, maybe he’s all truth and is just very sensitive. He is TOS so it is a possibility. In that case, like I said above, if he just keeps off the forums and runs his own money and does well, the money will flow in like clockwork.
Time will tell.
I think there is a confusion in terminology here, pretty sure jozsika was referring to your platform setup and you seem to be talking about your trade setup, e.g. the conditions that lead to your entering a trade. I don’t think he was criticizing your trading skills.
I hope after the July 4th holiday you reconsider leaving C2.
Thanks, Pete!
I didn’t even understand how my concerns about changing “setup” can offend anybody.
Now (thanks to you!) I do understand what the misunderstanding could have been.
Maybe this was it (??).
Or it could have been just an excuse to leave. And feeling sorry for his lost $6,000. Not even mentioning the $100K his subscribers lost (17 subscribers at 100% scale.) Quite disappointing.
Joseph
@jozsika, I am starting to think this guy was a newbie trader and he thought he could clean up with his foolproof system.
For one thing, its next to impossible to know what institutions are doing from a footprint chart that some software company is selling to lure potential buyers. If it were so good then why would the company sell that software to the masses?
Secondly, institutions can lose and they mostly don’t trade the way we do because of their large pockets (in the billions) so they can accept huge drawdowns and run hedging which we cannot.
Anyways, I do hope we can see more of this ‘footprint’ software trading in action as I for one was curious as to its viability in real trading.
and then
Good move. Why to work for free.
im here for the popcorn. this post is getting epiK!
I love how you told everyone off about raising the system $350
This is great theater
You go with your bad self girrrllll
Hello,
The best decision you could have made for yourself. Go on SIM/DEMO and practice practice practice. Get consistent trading with less than 5% DD per trade and go live again after you build some confidence. Very smart choice you made there. Practice makes perfect.
Good day
PayoffMatrix your namesake system has been in a downhill slide since February - you are in no position to give others unsolicited trading advice, especially when it wasn’t requested.
Take your own advice : put your system back in SIM mode until you can turn a profit again.
