I don’t understand why sometimes we get huge occurrences of the same system on the C2 ticker. I just got about 10-12 consecutive occurrences of “Bottoms Up” at about 1:17pm EST on Weds. Then there were follow-on periodic occurrences…
But the system did not make the “Most looked-at this hour” ??
Since I cannot believe that 10-12 individuals were suddenly interested in the same system out of hundreds, these things usually smell like manipulation. But maybe there is a flaw in how C2 records events that trigger a system name???
When I looked at my own system, it popped up on the ticker. Maybe you should prevent a system from appearing if the system admin looks at it???
Hello Ross,
You are like a superman , you have the time to be a writer , to create “toy - systems” that you don’t want to sell , to work on the floor/pit for a bank , to create indicators , to critize other people system like a pro , to teach rookie traders , to blame those who needs help on autotrading and even to track manipulation on c2 ticker .
How great you are . I 'm impressed .Really .
I agree,
Last night I had to sort through FX?'s 800+ trades 25 at a time, and every time the ticker lit up.
Im not trying to spam C2 while performing admin maintenance of a system.
I agree with you Mr. Pig.
Matthew has much bigger fish (or bacon?) to fry. Check this out:
24886220 BTC 3250 @QMH7 @ MKT DAY 1/31/07 16:15
1/31/07 16:15 58
This trade earned a RF of 26 even though there were less than 50 contracts traded in the 10 minute period surrounding the (3250 contract) trade. The RF should be < 1.5%. Allowing systems like this to dominate C2 rankings could turn C2 into a joke. Fixing this type of deliberate deception, and keeping all C2 systems on the same level and realistic playing field, is a far greater priority IMHO. Who cares how many times system XYZ flashes across the ticker? Not me.
I may be superman, but do not hold a candle to flying pink pigs.
You manage to set records for the highest $$ gains and highest $$ losses in C2 history…
"Allowing systems like this to dominate C2 rankings could turn C2 into a joke. “
I paid 99$ for this system in order to dominate C2 ranking,that is my pleasure , I 'm a customer
and flyin pink pig is my toy like” future system " is a toy for Ross .
Allowing someone like Ross or like you , (with unproved skills for trading and a nasty equity curve ) to dominate C2 forum could turn C2 into a joke faster than a system like mine .
Mr Pig I presume? Or are you Monsieur AB?
I am confused. The easy forex system doesn’t trade
le crude oil? Non?
Anyway, if you think C2 systems shouldn’t have to have
any basis in reality that is your opinion. Don’t get angry
just because I shared the facts. I didn’t even mention
your system, but I’m sure everyone appreciates your
honesty …umm, Mr. AB / Mr. Pink Pig?
A nasty equity curve? Were you talking about the pink pig? As I said, I think it set the record for most money lost in a short period. Now THAT is nasty…
Or both of them ?
Is there any rules here that do not permit to work with a successfull traders ?
if you look closer you will find other french traders like us who sell systems here and we all work in the same office , Any problem about that ?
I smell a rat. I think pink pig openned another system and forgot who he logged on as, so he responded under the other name. I think C2 should NOT let system vendors come back and create systems under a different user name since then we don’t know their history of deception.
For example, if a system vendor blew up some user accounts, and then comes back under a different name, we then don’t have his or her history, we can’t judge if we should subscribe to the new system. I think if people knew the other systems that this vendor created, they would not be subscribed to his new one.
May be i should send you my ID by fax ?
> Or both of them ?
> we all work in the same office , Any problem about that ?
Sorry, I didn’t know everyone in France worked in your office.
So you guys sit next to each other and he pays and gets your
signals through C2? Hmmm… sure, I believe you. You are
a very honest person. Why wouldn’t I believe you? No problem
whatsoever.
BTW, you may wish to reread my post. I agreed with you. I just
had a question about the RF on that crude oil trade. So what do
you think? 3000+ contracts on real volume of 45 or so. Realistic?
You probably knows other traders here , and other systems , may be we are closer than you think .Why should i pay for anybody ?
About my system , I agree that now, the realism factor is very poor and because the system was very successful in the past i adjust the size of the trade , you should focuse on the price not on the size .The realism factor on this trade and on others should be less than 1 % on the size but not on the price . My system show what is "possible " on paper trading , i do not recommend to trade 5000 qm contracts even with 14M$ . But wich subscriber with 15 million $ will trade or even auto trade a system ? , it’s the size of a little hedge fund
"Allowing someone like Ross or like you , (with unproved skills for trading and a nasty equity curve ) to dominate C2 forum could turn C2 into a joke faster than a system like mine." - A B
How many people trade based on comments made in C2 forums rather than signals received from the systems they subscribe to? Your statement is without merit, basically.
Thank heavens (or Dyonesius, Osiris, Mithra) for those few people who actually do post on a regular basis… for without them the forums would be a vast wasteland, sans the occassional bragadocious post such as "I will earn you 2 ES points a day, which is 1 point better than all other systems."
2pts a day is a pretty tall order. Just ask these vendors:
2pts a day
3pts a day’
4pts a day
With 30 to 35% losers plus commish, even 1pt a day is tough
previously, we had a Matthew G. who opened up other IDs, and used them as testimonials for his own system (via the My Analyst page, eg) as well as running up page views to make his systems look better.
That is why I still believe that everyone who comes into C2 should not be allowed to post on the forum, offer signals, use the My Analyst page or count toward page views, unless they have a credit card on file to ensure they do not have duplicate IDs.
> You probably knows other traders here , and other systems , may be we are closer than you think .Why should i pay for anybody ?
Sure, right, I believe you! “He” works in your office and pays C2 for
your service. Why not have him just fork over the francs in person?
Why pay Matthew 30%? Come on now, I was born at night, but I
wasn’t born LAST night.
> The realism factor on this trade and on others should be less than 1 %
Exactly. No offense to you or to Matthew, but this is a serious C2 flaw. The RF on that trade was 25+.
> My system show what is "possible " on paper trading …
Right. But in theory people subscribe to C2 to trade real money.
C2 should strive to have systems act as if they are trading real money.
Once again your system is an excellent of a vacuous system.
> How many people trade based on comments made in C2 forums rather than signals received from the systems they subscribe to? Your statement is without merit, basically.
I thought similar thoughts.
> Thank heavens (or Dyonesius, Osiris, Mithra) for those few people who actually do post on a regular basis… for without them the forums would be a vast wasteland.
Indeed, I suspect C2 benefits from active, even sometimes contentious, forums. Some people come here for entertainment…and as long as they keep coming back (for ANY reason) there is the possibility they may spend some money after a while.
And, in case anyone hasn’t noticed, even lousy systems get more attention after they have been mentioned in the forums. The correlation between forum mentions and “most looked-at this hour” is very high.
I would bet the hits from forum mentions rivals paid ads. Hey, I never saw the easy French system there before the Pink one came out.
Firstly, where is this ticker?
Second, if I needed advice on my system details, (I DO seriously need help, by the way), nobody would bother to click on my system out of fear It will make “the most looked at” ? How shameful.
The help I need is I can’t seem to figure out why my system isn’t listed under FOREX systems. It appears to far exceed all the listed requirements for it to be there.
So, if anyone could have a look and see what’s holding my system back, I’d really appreciate it.
Cheers!
