Discussion for: Leader Board Performance vs. Market

I updated the forward test. Sometimes it is difficult to decide exactly what to include because some strategies shut down with open positions. Or they may have a really smooth curve experience massive drop subscribers seem to quite, then they take a big bet and recover. However, subscribers tend to not come back then the strategies close. Items like this and others make it difficult to fully grasp the significance of the results without looking pretty deep at each strategy included. This difficulty in my opinion is amplified with the C2 Star leaderboard. I say that because the strategy was on that particular leaderboard because of its stability. When leaders lose their certification or subscribers and start taking huge bets things get unrealistic fast.

C2 Star Examples of Wild Behavior post losing C2Star status:

Naturally it is difficult to decide what to include. In the first table I have included every trade. In the second table I also included every single trade except for the last one on the strategy future which appeared to occur after the C2 Star certification/subs were lost and the leader just left a huge position open etc. The third table shows each strategy result and a link to the details. If you click on a strategy link and it is private, in the url replace the word details with performance to see a chart of the strategy.

6/16/2020
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9/12/2020
9/12/2020
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5/24/2021
5/24/2021
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7/30/2023
6/16/2020
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7/30/2023
9/12/2020
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7/30/2023
Popularity 15 -1.0% 4.92% 20.34% 25% 26%
TOS 15 Not Available 22.30% -6.18% Not Available 15%
IRA 15 8.6% 33.99% 14.04% 66% 53%
C2 Star 15 1.4% -5.83% 36.91% 31% 29%
Old-Timers 15 10.0% 19.75% -12.25% 16% 5%
SPY with DRIP 7.2% 26.93% 12.73% 53% 43%
Years 0.24 0.70 2.18 3.12 2.88
6/16/2020
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9/12/2020
9/12/2020
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5/24/2021
5/24/2021
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7/30/2023
6/16/2020
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7/30/2023
9/12/2020
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7/30/2023
Popularity 15 -1.0% 4.92% 20.34% 25% 26%
TOS 15 Not Available 22.30% -6.18% Not Available 15%
IRA 15 8.6% 33.99% 14.04% 66% 53%
C2 Star *15 1.4% -5.83% 5.04% 0% -1%
Old-Timers 15 10.0% 19.75% -12.25% 16% 5%
SPY with DRIP 7.2% 26.93% 12.73% 53% 43%
Years 0.24 0.70 2.18 3.12 2.88
*Excluding the last month of strategy ID 134255388 due to its likely closure.
Board Category Order Start End Start $ End $ Return % Link to Strategy Notes
Popularity 1 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $62,515 $92,944 48.67% https://collective2.com/details/128265049
Popularity 2 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $120,000 $112,000 -6.67% https://collective2.com/details/132622706
Popularity 3 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $62,000 $85,000 37.10% Collective2
Popularity 4 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $61,227 $135,500 121.31% https://collective2.com/details/125624499
Popularity 5 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $310,000 $360,000 16.13% https://collective2.com/details/126454200
Popularity 6 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $36,428 $35,000 -3.92% Algebra Crypto Fund
Popularity 7 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $53,000 $83,000 56.60% AI TQQQ only swing
Popularity 8 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $130,700 $84,000 -35.73% The Lab
Popularity 9 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $120,000 $120,000 0.00% https://collective2.com/details/130453775
Popularity 10 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $42,400 $38,700 -8.73% https://collective2.com/details/124978054
Popularity 11 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $23,200 $27,800 19.83% https://collective2.com/details/129373845
Popularity 12 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $95,000 $76,000 -20.00% https://collective2.com/details/132007449
Popularity 13 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $36,400 $67,000 84.07% https://collective2.com/details/132148218
Popularity 14 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $77,600 $75,745 -2.39% Trade2Short
Popularity 15 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $179,500 $177,360 -1.19% https://collective2.com/details/123231599
TOS 1 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $62,515 $92,944 48.67% https://collective2.com/details/128265049
TOS 2 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $53,036 $83,107 56.70% https://collective2.com/details/131561344
TOS 3 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $148,595 $146,985 -1.08% https://collective2.com/details/123937705
TOS 4 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $68,948 $65,000 -5.73% https://collective2.com/details/126548162
TOS 5 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $92,891 $75,000 -19.26% https://collective2.com/details/130576078
TOS 6 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $81,618 $48,545 -40.52% https://collective2.com/details/131612959
TOS 7 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $22,000 $21,828 -0.78% https://collective2.com/details/132146405
TOS 8 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $225,000 $190,000 -15.56% https://collective2.com/details/117442067
TOS 9 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $119,800 $78,910 -34.13% https://collective2.com/details/127924250
TOS 10 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $35,800 $628 -98.25% https://collective2.com/details/128022277
TOS 11 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $183,000 $178,000 -2.73% https://collective2.com/details/102427283
TOS 12 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $498,000 $130,000 -73.90% https://collective2.com/details/87581363
TOS 13 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $59,000 $114,000 93.22% https://collective2.com/details/127841340
TOS 14 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $536,000 $610,000 13.81% ALPS 1
TOS 15 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $23,000 $19,975 -13.15% https://collective2.com/details/130482646
IRA 1 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $62,500 $92,900 48.64% https://collective2.com/details/128265049
IRA 2 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $53,000 $83,107 56.81% https://collective2.com/details/131561344
IRA 3 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $42,442 $38,700 -8.82% https://collective2.com/details/124978054
IRA 4 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $23,090 $27,864 20.68% https://collective2.com/details/129373845
IRA 5 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $178,894 $177,360 -0.86% https://collective2.com/details/123231599
IRA 6 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $117,000 $112,200 -4.10% https://collective2.com/details/130018805
IRA 7 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $67,000 $71,780 7.13% https://collective2.com/details/132165642
IRA 8 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $101,500 $70,220 -30.82% https://collective2.com/details/126444124
IRA 9 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $37,888 $99,200 161.82% JC Alpha
IRA 10 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $77,000 $67,500 -12.34% https://collective2.com/details/132385285
IRA 11 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $68,948 $65,051 -5.65% https://collective2.com/details/126548162
IRA 12 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $97,080 $70,500 -27.38% https://collective2.com/details/123007535
IRA 13 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $548,400 $591,000 7.77% https://collective2.com/details/126054331
IRA 14 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $53,068 $52,500 -1.07% https://collective2.com/details/131972338
IRA 15 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $42,910 $42,362 -1.28% https://collective2.com/details/124994120
C2 Star 1 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $26,000 $74,925 188.17% https://collective2.com/details/134255487 Most of return would have happened after C2 Star status lost.
C2 Star 2 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $47,500 $74,951 57.79% https://collective2.com/details/134255352 Most of return would have happened after C2 Star status lost.
C2 Star 3 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $51,000 $39,500 -22.55% https://collective2.com/details/135324998
C2 Star 4 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $46,400 $266,000 473.28% https://collective2.com/details/134255388
C2 Star 5 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $52,582 $55,282 5.13% https://collective2.com/details/135204864
C2 Star 6 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $23,123 -$1,011 -104.37% https://collective2.com/details/135662488 Huge drop
C2 Star 7 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $52,005 $51,540 -0.89% https://collective2.com/details/135117731
C2 Star 8 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $32,300 $53,997 67.17% https://collective2.com/details/135656292
C2 Star 9 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $51,057 $48,169 -5.66% https://collective2.com/details/134260510
C2 Star 10 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $35,000 $54,336 55.25% https://collective2.com/details/135638383 huge drawdown
C2 Star 11 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $47,870 $48,483 1.28% https://collective2.com/details/134370531
C2 Star 12 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $45,044 $42,871 -4.82% https://collective2.com/details/135282700
C2 Star 13 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $30,000 -$12,000 -140.00% https://collective2.com/details/135662477
C2 Star 14 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $54,600 $69,500 27.29% https://collective2.com/details/132920574
C2 Star 15 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $51,445 $29,129 -43.38% https://collective2.com/details/131741853
Old Timers 1 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $598,000 $799,777 33.74% https://collective2.com/details/75800796
Old Timers 2 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $200,000 $200,000 0.00% https://collective2.com/details/117442067
Old Timers 3 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $177,000 $178,000 0.56% https://collective2.com/details/102427283
Old Timers 4 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $301,600 $188,000 -37.67% https://collective2.com/details/100314882
Old Timers 5 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $120,000 $95,000 -20.83% https://collective2.com/details/115424989
Old Timers 6 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $53,800 $63,574 18.17% https://collective2.com/details/13202557
Old Timers 7 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $49,772 $47,578 -4.41% https://collective2.com/details/85633603
Old Timers 8 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $80,000 $75,000 -6.25% https://collective2.com/details/106901765
Old Timers 9 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $485,000 $148,000 -69.48% https://collective2.com/details/87581363 wild one
Old Timers 10 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $100,000 $90,000 -10.00% https://collective2.com/details/106600099
Old Timers 11 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $249,505 $153,700 -38.40% https://collective2.com/details/100707640
Old Timers 12 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $53,791 $52,252 -2.86% https://collective2.com/details/107529017
Old Timers 13 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $36,158 $40,828 12.92% https://collective2.com/details/111648302
Old Timers 14 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $66,966 $61,571 -8.06% https://collective2.com/details/106187009
Old Timers 15 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $77,828 $37,978 -51.20% https://collective2.com/details/106804598
SPY 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $419 $457 9.01%
SPY w dividends 5/24/2021 7/30/2023 $405 $457 12.73%
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