Hmmm - the "Graham All Markets Trading" forum along with over 45 posts mysteriously disappeared, which questioned its authenticity. How can someone delete an entire forum???
The 3 glowing reviews also mysteriously disappeared. >:(
But now it is supposedly up to 4200 views in 8 days. An alltime record for a system with rapid drawdown and poor performance.
And if you look at "My Analyst" pages, there are "6" people supposedly tracking it:
Matthew Graham - Graham All Markets Trading
7/5/06 20:45
Matthew Graham - Graham All Markets Trading
7/5/06 20:43
M Graham - Graham All Markets Trading
7/5/06 20:43
Jennifer Tyll - Graham All Markets Trading
7/5/06 20:41
J Tyll - Graham All Markets Trading
7/5/06 20:38
Matthew Graham - Graham All Markets Trading
7/5/06 15:28
3 times on his own page, once on his page with only first initial, once by Jennifer Tyll (the only person who spoke up as his "subscriber" - alter ego or shill?) and once by J Tyll (same person again). I thought people couldnt add their own system to their own Analyst page???
This smells ever more like a rat.
> The 3 glowing reviews also mysteriously disappeared. >:(
Not a mystery. C2’s Matthew noted they were frauds and deleted them.
unfortunately, the systems and the shilled "My Analysts" still remain
>unfortunately, the systems and the shilled "My Analysts" still remain
So what? If anyone subscribes to crap like this they deserve what they get:
Realism Factor 36.7
Trades 181 Profitable 17 Losses 164
Win % 9.4%
Ross,
Have you ever thought about becoming a cop? Perhaps you could work
some ghetto somewhere where there is a lot of "action". You seem to thrive on confrontation. Or maybe Spec-Ops? They could still use few more good men in Iraq or Afghanistan. Some folks over there are just looking for a good fight each and every day.
I enjoy many of your posts, often agree with some of your points, but
I wonder if you enjoy fighting more than trading.
nah. Only interested in straightforward information, improving C2, protecting newbies, pushing people to do their homework, and speaking/posting based on evidence rather than on opinion. If I turn into a lightning rod, I guess I can live with it.
This one just smelled. The name of your system says it all. "The Truth."
> This one just smelled.
Most everyone agreed…and yet you posted 10-15 times?
> If I turn into a lightning rod…
Sometimes maybe a thunderstorm.
How can anyone have a win percentage so low without being very good or cheating somehow?
Something very strange has been going on.
>>> Hmmm - the “Graham All Markets Trading” forum along with over 45 posts mysteriously disappeared, which questioned its authenticity. How can someone delete an entire forum???
Not the only one who doesnt enjoy feedback. Why don’t you have a forum of your own, Ross?
Even Insp. Jacques Clouseau could have sniffed this one out, as well as your thirst for self-publicity via everyone elses forums.
Well, I am glad you located the obvious problem, Kato. Your posts warning others to the problem are compelling enough evidence of your perception.
> How can anyone have a win percentage so low without being very good or cheating somehow?
A very high % of options lose over time… you neither have to be smart or to cheat to lose a high % of long option trades. The system in question trades mostly long options.
Just curious, why do you think someone would "cheat" to lose? And then
make a point of advertising those loses? What kind of wisdom is that?
I don’t have a clue Sam.
Was just confused by it all.
Options explain it thanks.
> Options explain it thanks.
Maybe, I dunno, but a very strange “system” and
marketing ploy…don’t you agree?
Another way to get < 20% winners is to put 1-2 tick stops
on every trade. I can turn a 80% winning system into an under
20% winner (80%+ losers) with a few clicks on TS pulling the stops
up too tight.
Now the whole system has disappeared.
But now a "Jennifer Tyll" (the former Matthew?") is hyping "Home Run Hitter via Chatter. This is the Tyll that uses 2 different IDs for "My Analyst" pages that point to many of the "Graham" systems
Jennifer Tyll Graham Options Straddles 6/26/06 21:41
J Tyll Graham Advanced Options Spreads 7/5/06 21:10
Some of your web pages are down, including the testimonials page.
http://www.futures-systems.com/testimonials.html
http://www.futures-systems.com/FAQ.html
http://futures-systems.com/subscribe.html
the site is not active, neither is my C2 system. That is why it says "not taking subscribers yet"
I think Matthew Graham (the various Graham systems) has something he wants to say to everyone about what has been going on with his systems.
According to messages back and forth between us (Matthew Graham keeps writing to me), he wants to come clean but there is a lot of reluctance. Hopefully soon, he can issue his admissions to the public, and not just to me. So here is your chance, Matthew Graham. Get it off your chest, so you feel better.
In synopsis (since the original forum of about 45 posts mysteriously disappeared), there was writing of fake glowing reviews, faking huge numbers of views to make the system appear popular, faking of My Analyst pages to make it look like the system was being tracked by a lot of people (when it was about 6 variations of the same person). Then when caught, the fake reviews disappeared, (somehow the System in this title was made to go away), etc.
But don’t let me stop you. I know deep down inside, Matthew Graham (so you don’t confuse with the owner of this website), you really want to get it off your chest, as you have been trying to tell me privately.
You are free to add your thoughts and apologies to the people here. Then we can all forgive and forget, and go on with our lives
I believe that Matthew Graham is planning to issue a comprehensive explanation and apology of what he did by tomorrow, so hopefully, no one else tries to monkey with the trust people place in C2.
I would like to apologize to everyone for posting reviews of my own trading system. The fact that the system was free did not make it acceptable in any way. Being excited about my trading system was no excuse. I undermined the integrity of the site and for that I am truly sorry. Although Matthew Klein said that a public apology was not necessary, I felt that the completely unacceptable nature of my actions necessitated it. Again, I am sorry for my actions, for which I am ashamed and embarrassed. It will not happen again. To rectify this matter, I have withdrawn the system in question.
