Rebate report: first wrong, now gone

Hi Matthew,



A long time problem that needs your attention in this busy times for you… I’ve emailed you twice about 6 months ago about ‘the rebate report’ for C2 free autotrading not being correct. I never received an answer however. About the calculation: it was utterly incorrect as I had just one subscriber back then for a long period of time and it was easy to track his real trade sizes with the C2-exclusive rate… but I never really bothered.



But now even worse: it just says “naughty” when I ask for it.



Hope this flaw has not been reported yet, but still, there must be something wrong with the basic algorithm calculating the rebate too…



Thank you

Wouter -



I’m pretty sure the rebate report is correct, as it has been used by many hundreds of people, and many hundreds of forex systems, etc. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding about the data you expected to see. (You wrote: “I had just one subscriber back then for a long period of time and it was easy to track his real trade sizes with the C2-exclusive rate” … not entirely sure what this means but it sounds like you were looking at the “show autotrade fills” data and comparing it to your rebate report; but I should point out that just because you have a subscriber doesn’t mean he is actually trading in a live brokerage account, as opposed to a demo). In any case, that’s neither here no there; I will certainly look into your specific question and answer it, but first things first: let’s get you access to the actual report!



The report should be available on the old Web site (not yet migrated to the new). Are you saying that you are no longer able to see it even from the old site? If this is indeed the case, can you email me privately (please don’t post here) the URL you see in your browser when you generate the “Naughty” message?



Thanks … and don’t worry … we will surely get to the bottom of this.

Hi again Matthew,



1. The “naughty” only comes up in the beta C2. So:OK, that’s beta.



2. However, we’re a 100% sure that that 1 subscriber is live trading no doubt, so the real fills were his and real. (He had sometimes not enough money to follow… we could follow every trade he took or not exactly)



Maybe it’s this: with a ‘star sign’ it states we still have to choose whether to go for the ‘standard’ or ‘exclusive’ rate and gives us the calculation with both options. (both wrong) However,



we long ago opted & selected ‘exclusive’. Did that setting got lost somewhere?? So, it says in that window to click on the system name ‘to learn more…’ if you do…nothing happens… and you can not select the rate anywhere.



so where again to select the ‘exclusive rate’?? … maybe that fixes the whole thing AND the calculation behind it.



Please have one more look into this… thank you



Wouter

"However, we’re a 100% sure that that 1 subscriber is live trading no doubt, so the real fills were his and real. (He had sometimes not enough money to follow… we could follow every trade he took or not exactly) "



How would you possibly 100% know a subscriber’s real actions with real money? Technically, this violates the legal environment in which we (the vendors in this site)) operate as C2 publishers of our trading ideas, blindly, to a set of potential subscribers. You are not supposed to have individual knowledge of account size, trading activity or similars in any way of anyone else, unless you are a CTA/RIA/etc. This kind of relationship can get you into a lot of hot water with the trading authorities.

Index



I simply should not bother with people like you but, hey, it’s stronger then myself.



ONE: This does not concern you. Mind your own business if you have any. I used the forum just to reach Matthew as he responds to posts ten times more likely then email. So Index…walk.



TWO: You judge I’m violating some bla bla rule I don’t even care about. You do this all based on zero knowledge of what my relationship is like in real life with this person… I say to you, Index… just shut up.



THREE: You’re ignored by 75% of those that use the function. Since it’s all about statistics here… numbers don’t lie.

Index



I simply should not bother with people like you but, hey, it’s stronger then myself.



ONE: This does not concern you. Mind your own business if you have any. I used the forum just to reach Matthew as he responds to posts ten times more likely then email. So Index…walk.



TWO: You judge I’m violating some bla bla rule I don’t even care about. You do this all based on zero knowledge of what my relationship is like in real life with this person… I say to you, Index… just shut up.



THREE: You’re ignored by 75% of those that use the function. Since it’s all about statistics here… numbers don’t lie.

  1. this is a forum, so whining about people is immature, so this is ignored. So Wouter, fall into a bucket.



    2) You are very likely violating the rule, unless you are incapable of reporting your situation accurately. And again, this is a forum, so whining about people responding is very immature.



    And second Wouter, get an education. Being ignorant and uninterested in federal regulations is a rotten thing for a vendor to display. That alone should scare people away from your offerings.



    3) Yes, and neither does ignorance and becoming defensive when you post publicly, lie. Grow up Wouter



    It is apparent you cannot handle constructive criticism. No one attacked you. Mature, educated people assimilate input. Toddlers whine and yell and throw temper tantrums, as you have done here. I did not realize you could act so immaturely.

Technically, this violates the legal environment in which we (the vendors in this site)) operate as C2 publishers of our trading ideas, blindly, to a set of potential subscribers.

hmm… “in which we (the vendors in this site)” Did I miss something? Can somebody point me to the shlimazel Ross system at C2?

You are not supposed to have individual knowledge of account size, trading activity or similars in any way of anyone else, unless you are a CTA/RIA/etc.

When you give your wife/girlfriend financial advise you violate a law and you’re under few years of prison if you aren’t CTA/RIA/etc. Well… with you’re worst luck, of course, of choosing wife/girlfriend. You should not care about it Ross. (smile)



Wouter,

THREE: You’re ignored by 75% of those that use the function. Since it’s all about statistics here… numbers don’t lie.

I think people who ignores our kitty/guru miss a lot of fun. Personally, I have a lot of laughing from his book “knowledge” and his attempts to guruism. It’s always pleasure to see our kitty in teaching. Hopefully he’ll start writing trading books.



Eu

Hey Eu,



:smiley:



Yeah, this guru must feel lonely sometimes… all this trading wisdom he is teaching and so few of us that listen. He sure has the potential for writing much wanted “Trading books by non traders”!



I’ll make sure NOT to ignore him… :smiley:



Take care



Martijn Deketelaere

Assistant to Wouter. (or so he would like to hear)